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Japanese - The Basics

 
01-10-2004 00:52wiseass is offline wiseass  

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Okay okay okay okay. My name is Rachel. I'm going to teach you inferior mortals some Japanese.

First. I want to let you know that Japanese is a hard language to learn.

Rule number one! Japanese put the VERB at the END! so, go ahead and get comfortable with putting verbs at the end. Go Ahead. Say "I sushi ate" or "You moron are" and so on and so forth.

Now it gets hard, Let's say you want to say "I ate sushi"
The word for 'I' is Watashi. But teenage males use Boku instead

The word for "Sushi" is just plain Sushi.

The word for "ate" is Tabeta

It seems like it should be "Watashi Sushi Tabeta" right?

WRONG!

It is Watashi WA Sushi O Tabeta

You're probably thinking... WTH is Wa And O? They're markers. They're Subject and Object markers. Without them, Japanese wouldn't know If you ate the sushi, or if the Sushi ate you. Wa always fallows the subject, and o always fallows the object.

Questions?





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07-10-2004 23:36wiseass is offline wiseass 

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unchi... is a naughty word. It means like... shit.
07-10-2004 23:45wiseass is offline wiseass 

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and a wakazashi is a short sword.
08-10-2004 00:14wiseass is offline wiseass 

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Here's another lesson on Japanese.
This is the part I got really confused with...

dun Dun DUN!!!

CONJUGATION!

In case you don't know what conjugation is, it's like past-tense and all that jazz.

The verb we willbe working with is "to eat" which is "taberu"

to say "I eat sushi", you change the "ru" to a "te"

"I eat sushi"

"Watashi wa sushi o tabeTE"

if you want to make it past-tense, or in other words, "I ate sushi" you change the "ru" to "ta."

"Watashi wa sushi o tabeta"

If you want to say that I DON'T eat sushi, you change the "ru" to a "nai"

"Watashi wa sushi o tabenai"

Then, if you want to say you DIDN'T eat sushi, you change the "ru" to a katta

"watashi wa sushi o tabekatta."

*just to let you know, this is the "casual" verb conjugation. I'll tell you the polite way when I'm in the mood. I know, I'm mean.

the conjugations for taberu, are pretty simple, the tough ones are like... let's say... "to speak." It's pretty much the same, only there's an extra step involved, as you will see later.

To speak is "hanasu." as you can see, there is no "ru" to replace stuff with. That's what makes this one difficult. So, you do something really weird...

you change the "su" in hanaSU to a "sa" so it becomes hanaSA.

now you can do all the conjuating.

hanasate
hanasata
hanasanai
hanasakatta.

The "sa" thing only woks for the casuual way of verb conjugatin...
08-10-2004 00:15wiseass is offline wiseass 

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i mean conjugation! Woah my first smiley!
08-10-2004 02:46bogler is offline bogler 

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let's congradulate her with all the smilies!






* offtopic :
Let's not... A simple thank you usually suffices, plus a smiley overload annoys me

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09-10-2004 05:20bogler is offline bogler 

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bogler's my brother. just so you know.
09-10-2004 05:24wiseass is offline wiseass 

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sorry about that. Bogler is MY brother. He left his thingymajig unattended.
09-10-2004 05:38DontSleep is offline DontSleep 

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what is muramasa?
09-10-2004 06:12wiseass is offline wiseass 

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I don't know exactly what the word means, but I know it was this sword making school... thing.
10-10-2004 13:17salaam is offline salaam 

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ah can some one tell me that where do u use hira- and when katakana? so hmm I'm thinking of learning japanese...at least the writing
12-10-2004 02:25wiseass is offline wiseass 

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Sorry I couldn't answer sooner. You use katakana for words that DO NOT have japanese origin. You use hiragana for words that DO have japanese origin.
12-10-2004 13:15salaam is offline salaam 

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hmm I see. Thx. So if I wanna be able to read japanese text, I have to know hiragana, katakana and 2000 kanjis hmm at the moment I can remember 23 chinese characters.. and I guess that they have another meaning in japanese...?
16-10-2004 01:26wiseass is offline wiseass 

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Alright. You see, um... Kanji's are the same thing as the Chinese characters. Same meaning... different way of saying it. Let's take the Kanji for "Big" In Chinese, this kanji is "Da" but in Japanese, it's "Okii"

16-10-2004 01:28wiseass is offline wiseass 

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Alright. You see, um... Kanji's are the same thing as the Chinese characters. Same meaning... different way of saying it. Let's take the Kanji for "Big" In Chinese, this kanji is "Da" but in Japanese, it's "Okii"

16-10-2004 10:39salaam is offline salaam 

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yeah I know that they are Chinese characters.
But I thought that they might mean sth different in japanese...at least in some cases
16-10-2004 23:27wiseass is offline wiseass 

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no... not really.
17-10-2004 10:03salaam is offline salaam 

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I have started to learn hiragana btw.. interesting.
17-10-2004 10:18salaam is offline salaam 

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so it'd be nice if you could put some japanese text here (in english letters) so I could practice writing... and it can be longer than couple of lines thanks.
21-10-2004 12:06DontSleep is offline DontSleep 

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how do u say "take him away!" in japanese? ( its weird i kno )
23-10-2004 02:36wiseass is offline wiseass 

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click here for kana!
23-10-2004 02:37Cyd is offline Cyd 


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Hi Rachel...
23-10-2004 02:38wiseass is offline wiseass 

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Kare o Tolate kudasai.
23-10-2004 04:47wiseass is offline wiseass 

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Hi Cyd
24-10-2004 02:29wiseass is offline wiseass 

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Actually, I think it's

Kare o asoko ni toratte kudasai
03-12-2004 23:52wiseass is offline wiseass 

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Why isn't anyone responding to this anymore?

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