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Religious Inquiry

 
02-08-2004 06:32vandy is offline vandy  


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Do you have a question about a certain type of faith? Or just a general question asking about what it encompasses? Ask these questions here, someone's sure to know something!




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28-04-2005 12:09aussie_celesty is offline aussie_celesty 

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Heh ... I'm not sure vandy, but that sounds terribly familiar as one of my posts ... lol ...
28-04-2005 12:18CoreysCrusade is offline CoreysCrusade 

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Anyway, Jehovah's Witnesses are like Christians, but they have several different beliefs:

1. The beleive that people who do not follow God but are not worthy of hell go to a lower kingdom.

2. You aren't allowed to do blood transfusions and stuff.

There's more but I can't think of it now. They come to talk to us every Saturday even though we're Catholic, so that's how I know it.


Sorry, just thought I'd correct you. I'm studying with the witnesses.

We don't believe in hell. We believe death is like a sleep, or She'ol in Hebrew (mankind's common grave). They certainly do not believe in damnation or eternal torment.

Yes, they don't have blood transfusions but they have blood volumisers (anything really, as long as it isn't putting foreign blood in the body).
28-04-2005 12:29dkk is offline dkk 

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I must be doing this "link" thing wrong, so I've put the address here again but anyone wishing to visit the site will have to cut an'paste

http://reluctant-messenger.com/aquarian_gospel_introduction.htm
28-04-2005 12:36dkk is offline dkk 

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re ^.

The complete book is in the left hand margin.

starting with the Introduction (mind-boggling- fantastic) and the chapters.

As I said earlier, this book does not belong to any specific religion, you won't go to Hell if you read it but you just might enjoy a beautyful read
08-06-2005 23:23christain is offline christain 

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what is pagainism and wiccan I am so confused I have know this gurl who has been my best friend for like ever has turned to it and I can't help her turn to the Bible or God if I don't know what it is cause i have tried but I can't figure it out urr...please just e-mail me on here cause then I can check it okay welll....I gotz to go talk to yall later! bye!!

jen
09-06-2005 00:08hobbitgirl is offline hobbitgirl 

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pagan-One who is not a Christian, Muslim, or Jew, especially a worshiper of a polytheistic(more than 1 god) religion.

Wicca(Wiccan is one who participates in this religion)-A polytheistic Neo-Pagan nature religion inspired by various pre-Christian western European beliefs, whose central deity is a mother goddess and which includes the use of herbal magic and benign witchcraft.

09-06-2005 00:10DeathByMonkeys is offline DeathByMonkeys 

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Just answered that, lol.

Anyone who has questions about paganism, please direct them my way. I am a practicing witch and will try to handle them as best I can, and I promise not to turn anyone into a toad.
09-06-2005 00:18DeathByMonkeys is offline DeathByMonkeys 

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OK, I have a question myself, and I can't seem to remember if I asked it before or not. If I did, well then, who cares?

In Judaism, is there a belief in the Devil, Hell, or Jesus? I was under the impression that Jews did not believe in such nonsense, but someone just put up an arguement that they did.

Do reply.
09-06-2005 00:22hobbitgirl is offline hobbitgirl 

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Well, I'm not a Jew, but from my understanding:

Devil-Yes
Hell-Yes in the bible it was referred to as Ghenna. Ghenna is an acual place, a valley outside the city of Jerusalem. Legend says that years before Jesus there was a mass extinction of babies and they were burned in that valley. But new evidence shows that it was used as a crematorium. Either way a fire burned there and hence it bacame known as the valley of fire, thus the image of hell as a place of fire.
Jesus-Yes, but they dont believe he was the savior. They believe he was a prophet.

09-06-2005 00:27DeathByMonkeys is offline DeathByMonkeys 

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thanks for clearing that up.
09-06-2005 00:28hobbitgirl is offline hobbitgirl 

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anytime
10-07-2005 21:14electric_bluez is offline electric_bluez 

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I myself don't think there is a god, i think its just a existential manisfestation of our collective culture's yearning for a parental power in this chaotic universe. I don't denounce the other religions, i have my own ideas and I respect other peoples ideas and faith, I'm just putting my spin on the whole religion thing out there

Peace
15-08-2005 07:36FireWaterBurn is offline FireWaterBurn 

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Please, can a christian explain to me what makes them believe in god?
04-09-2005 08:02DeathByMonkeys is offline DeathByMonkeys 

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I've got one as well, for the Catholics....

If I wanted to go into a church and light a few candles in memory of a friend, where (in a general sense) would I be doing that? I've not set foot in a Catholic church in my entire life, and I don't particularly feel like offending anyone today, so yeah, I'd like to know.
04-09-2005 08:14vandy is offline vandy 


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hoo boy, it depends on the exact church, some have candles for lighting, some don't, some are open at all hours, some aren't.

If you're not Catholic, don't feel like you have to genuflect or kneel at any certain time, although if you want to look like you totally know what you're doing, bow profoundly (from the waist) as you pass the altar.

Other than that, you'll just have to pop in and check if they have candles you can light for someone. Sometimes a small donation (50 cents-ish) is appropriate/required.
04-09-2005 08:20DeathByMonkeys is offline DeathByMonkeys 

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Awesome.

You rock, Meg.
04-09-2005 08:30vandy is offline vandy 


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now, off to the cupboard with ya!
16-10-2005 17:59Sadi is offline Sadi 

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okay, i just saw the movie chocolat and i was wondering if the whole deal with anything that gives u pleasure is satan or part of satan's plan to send us all to hell or whatever is really what people (i think it was catholics in the movie) believe or something from the time period (1960s i think) or just something made up to make a good movie.
30-10-2005 17:37vandy is offline vandy 


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Just made up to make a good movie. The Catholic Church is so full of rituals and such that holywood often spices things up to sell theater tickets. Or they take a rule that was once in place that the church removed 500 years ago, and put it in the movie as if the rule is still alive today. For instance, in the movie Constantine, a woman was refused a Catholic funeral because her death was believed to be suicide. The Catholic Church of the last 500 years (from what I've been told) would have not refused someone a Catholic funeral. period.
30-10-2005 18:27partybrat is offline partybrat 

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i have sommat that came up in our alpha group. not so much of a question as a discussion topic. So when a Christian dies they go to heaven.

but what about all those people who didnt follow God because they didnt have the chance, for example if somebody was mentally ill. or even if someone had grown up in a place where doing all these sinful things was what they were used to and nobody ever told them it was wrong and they never had any kind of access or awareness of the Christian faith?

Surely it would be wrong to judge them since its not really their fault. I mean maybe they would feel like something was missing from life, and subconsciously know there was something more but they might never find out about Christianity (or even be able to if they were very ill)

Anyway sorry if that wasnt very well put, im not too good with words and explaining stuff.
07-12-2005 15:48light_salt is offline light_salt 

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[/i]i have sommat that came up in our alpha group. not so much of a question as a discussion topic. So when a Christian dies they go to heaven.

but what about all those people who didnt follow God because they didnt have the chance, for example if somebody was mentally ill. or even if someone had grown up in a place where doing all these sinful things was what they were used to and nobody ever told them it was wrong and they never had any kind of access or awareness of the Christian faith?

Surely it would be wrong to judge them since its not really their fault. I mean maybe they would feel like something was missing from life, and subconsciously know there was something more but they might never find out about Christianity (or even be able to if they were very ill)

Anyway sorry if that wasnt very well put, im not too good with words and explaining stuff.[i]
No, i get wat u mean... i've also thought about that.. i asked my ma and she said (ok i dunno if it was her exact words but something like this) ok i actually i'll just tell ya wat i think... (soz 4 confusin' every1) I mean we don't know how mentally ill ppl really think... i mean there not just dead living ppl... all i can say is God knows their hearts.. isn't that gr8t! well yeah God is just.
07-12-2005 15:50light_salt is offline light_salt 

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i have sommat that came up in our alpha group. not so much of a question as a discussion topic. So when a Christian dies they go to heaven.

but what about all those people who didnt follow God because they didnt have the chance, for example if somebody was mentally ill. or even if someone had grown up in a place where doing all these sinful things was what they were used to and nobody ever told them it was wrong and they never had any kind of access or awareness of the Christian faith?

Surely it would be wrong to judge them since its not really their fault. I mean maybe they would feel like something was missing from life, and subconsciously know there was something more but they might never find out about Christianity (or even be able to if they were very ill)

Anyway sorry if that wasnt very well put, im not too good with words and explaining stuff.


No, i get wat u mean... i've also thought about that.. i asked my ma and she said (ok i dunno if it was her exact words but something like this) ok i actually i'll just tell ya wat i think... (soz 4 confusin' every1) I mean we don't know how mentally ill ppl really think... i mean there not just dead ppl living... they have some thought... well all i can say is God knows their hearts... isn't that gr8t!.. and he loves them...and you too! well yeah God is just.
20-11-2006 14:46Pandora is offline Pandora 


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sooo.. anyone actually know anything about the crazies that want to make the whole 'star wars' Jedi spill an actual registered and acknowledged religion?

rockon
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20-11-2006 23:19PunkRckr8 is offline PunkRckr8 


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i have sommat that came up in our alpha group. not so much of a question as a discussion topic. So when a Christian dies they go to heaven.

but what about all those people who didnt follow God because they didnt have the chance, for example if somebody was mentally ill. or even if someone had grown up in a place where doing all these sinful things was what they were used to and nobody ever told them it was wrong and they never had any kind of access or awareness of the Christian faith?

Surely it would be wrong to judge them since its not really their fault. I mean maybe they would feel like something was missing from life, and subconsciously know there was something more but they might never find out about Christianity (or even be able to if they were very ill)


These personally are not my opinions but those of the Church:
Those type of people who were good people but not of the Christian faith are technically in Hell by being stuck in pergatory (i.e. Ghandi, etc.). As far as the mentally ill, as long as they were baptized, technically they're in. And your "bad" people are still sinners, so technically they'd be in Hell as well.

However, the church has been flip-flopping on this sort of thing lately because of criticism from the masses, so who knows what the current stance is on these.
07-05-2007 03:53Brianthegamer is offline Brianthegamer 

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Pandora, I do not know the answer to your question, however, I believe I have some relevant information.
"Star Wars" is an allegory for world religion, and specifically, Christianity, and George Lucas tries to make a political statement about it. First of all, consider the Force. Is it not an analog for God? The Force is the heartbeat of the universe, the creative and binding force, and can be used as both means and justification for both good and evil. Does that not sound like something out of world history? If not, reflect oin the Crusades, the Conquistadors, the Hollocaust, etc.
Another potent symbol would be Anakin Skywalker. In the movie, he was "concieved by the force" (he has a mother but no father). Sounds a lot like another famous real-life figure to me. Here's a hint: his initials are J.C. . .
Another symbol would have to be the paraphenalia associated with the Jedi. They, like christian religious figures, wear robes/robe-like attire (essentially dresses for men), the practice of which dates way, way back towards the beginnings of religion as we know it, and represents the creative force, which was then almost always associated with women, birth, and femininity. The lightsaber, too, is a ceremonial tool with more psychological impact than usefulness. Consider, for example, the similarities between the holy swords of the Jedi and the Pope's crossier.

The list of similarities and references could go on and on. My response to your query would have to be that it's already more or less a mainstream religion. Sure, the semantics and fine details may be different from real life, but such is the way with religion and worship.

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