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Religious Inquiry
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@ 02-08-2004 06:32 vandy | 
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| Do you have a question about a certain type of faith? Or just a general question asking about what it encompasses? Ask these questions here, someone's sure to know something! |
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 0  @ 18-03-2005 05:17 Jay_The_Viking | 
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| I didnt get confused when they spoke to me at the door, that is almost exactly what they said. So maybe they messed up or you messed up? Cause I am sure that is what they said...  | | 0 @ 18-03-2005 06:26 vandy |
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| hey um...didn't check out the website cuz I'm not sure you read my post completely...I'm...A...CHRISTIAN!! lol, there's no need to prove anything to ME! | | 0 @ 18-03-2005 15:03 dkk | 250 posts
| Hey Vandy, I know you are a Christian and I'm sure you are a good one (there are plenty of *part-timers*, i.e. an hour every Sunday). I did read all of your post.
The beauty of the Aquarian Gospel is it does not belong to any specific religion and is quite simply a beatuful read | | 0 @ 28-03-2005 18:56 redrum243 | 170 posts
| I have two questions that I would like to ask of the Christian faith. Number One: Lets just say you've been married to someone for your entire life and are completely in love with them, can't live without them, you know what I mean, and they die and go to Hell and when you die, you go to Heaven. What happens then? Do you never see them again, but it doesn't matter as you're in Heaven and real happy? If so that's kind of harsh, well I think it is anyway.
Number two: If you kill a mosquito, technically that's wrong, which makes sense. However what if that mosquito was carrying malaria and would probably go on to infect many other people resulting in their death? Would it be the right thing to do because you've technically saved people's lives (good deed) or would it be a case of the ends don't justify the means (killing the mosquito, bad deed). This has been bugging me for ages so any insight is much appreciated. Thanks. | | 0 @ 30-03-2005 19:16 dkk | 250 posts
| This physical body is a home for our conciousness. When the body dies, the conciuosness will find another form to suit.
Your husband and wife will meet again, on the plain of Soul.
To Kill or Not To Kill?
There is a law of physics that says every action has a reaction. I think this is what Jesus meant when he said we reap what we sow. He also said something about the sins of the fathers falling on the sons. I reckon He was talking about DNA,
hereditary deseaceses (?).
I'm a firm believer in Karma. In fact I'd go so far and say that EVERYTHING IS karma. Everything is energy acting and reacting. For every effect there has been a cause and there always will be. Even our thoughts are chemical reactions which actions have their own reaction. If you see what I mean. Again, I quote JC (not exactly), Seek ye the Kingdom and All else with be added unto you.
To me that means do good for unselfish reasons and good will come back.
One man could kill your Mossy slowly, first a wing, then a leg, then another wing....well you get my drift.
Another man could be in deep conversation with the love of his life. A mossy takes him by surprise and bites in to his arm and he "reacts",spontaniously and slaps the spot without even thinking.
Now somehow I think the actions of the Sadist would result negative reactions with heavier impact too.
Wheras the Romeo did not actually say to himself he was going to kill a mossy, he gave no thought to it. So I reckon, his would be an "Instant karma", i.e., he reaps the reactions there and then, (itchy arm, pain trying not to scratch) :-).
The Saddo might get bit by a malairia carrier next time for his sins.
Idealy, if a person "does" the "right" thing, the right things will come back to him. Doing good so as to expect good in return, is not what I mean. I mean doing good because it is Right!
Then that person would probably not have the problem of the Mosquito, where ever he was, what ever he was doing, his life would be in harmony because that's the way he lives. :-).
 , hope that didn't confuse you
| | 0 @ 02-04-2005 00:47 redrum243 | 170 posts
| Didn't confuse me, well OK it did a bit but shhh, made me chuckle a few times though.
I thought that when a person died (according to Christianity of course) they either went to Heaven or Hell. I'm not familiar with this 'plain of Soul'.
Surely the theory of Karma applies after you die, ie you go to Hell for being bad. So something would need to be in place to punish the bad and reward the good, Heaven and Hell. All I was wondering is do you punish the good because what they want wasn't as good as they were? Or do you forgive the bad person to compensate for the good person's goodness. If you see what I mean?
I see where you're coming from with the mosquito but what I meant was even if someone were to just see a mosquito and randomly kill it absentmindedly, not sadistically or anything, would that be evil if the mosquito were to kill other people. Same thing being if you were to shoot someone who was about to shoot someone else, where do you stand? Or is this just a case of me oversimplifing things? I'm not too well up on Christianity it would appear.
I found the part about doing good interesting as well. Does anybody really do good because it's right? I think that there is no such thing as an unselfish act. Everybody who gives money to charity only does it to make themselves feel better or to make them seem like a good person to others. Same with most things I believe. Anywho that's neither here nor there. | | 0 @ 02-04-2005 18:14 dkk | 250 posts
| All I was wondering is do you punish the good because what they want wasn't as good as they were? Or do you forgive the bad person to compensate for the good person's goodness. If you see what I mean? *smiles*, not quite.
I was trying to say (just my opinion), it's not the action that warrents the severity of the punishment, it's the state of conciousness at the time!
As for Karma, it simply means the law of action and reaction. You don't have to die to experience it.
Drink too much and you get pissed, that's karma, action and reaction, cause and effect.
I suppose the plain of Soul is what Catholics call Pergatry (sp?)
| | 0 @ 07-04-2005 11:08 redrum243 | 170 posts
| OK I read it again and I see where you're coming from. Sorry don't mean to be so silly  .
Anywho going back to Purgatory, isn't that like a watered down version of Heaven? So if one partner was going to Heaven and one to Hell then that wouldn't matter because they'd both just meet in the middle? So that means that the person who was good, doesn't get to Heaven and the person who was bad, doesn't go to Hell. I thought those places were supposed to be, like, justice?? Doesn't seem right to me. | | 0 @ 07-04-2005 12:00 skye_hoppus | 463 posts
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i jus wanna say how impressive this thread is, there are no bad feelings or negative energies whatsoever between posters-keep it up guys! especially on the topic of religion i would expect disagreements and hostility, you guys have proved me wrong.
well done!
B
xxx
| | 0 @ 07-04-2005 14:52 vandy |
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| Purgatory isn't a permanent state. Think of it as a "layover" on the way to heaven. Once you're in purgatory, it's certain that you will go to heaven, but how long you will have to stay in purgatory just depends. | | 0 @ 07-04-2005 18:09 dkk | 250 posts
| yeah | | 0 @ 07-04-2005 20:10 Ethecide | 172 posts
| [offtopic] I agree with Skye... I haven't seen a thread like this in alot of websites I've been to. Usually, when a conversation turns to religion... A child fight breaks out. Not so here. Very mature. I don't agree with everything on the posts... But still impressive.  | | 0 @ 10-04-2005 16:52 dkk | 250 posts
| Purgatory isn't a permanent state. Think of it as a "layover" on the way to heaven. Once you're in purgatory, it's certain that you will go to heaven, but how long you will have to stay in purgatory just depends.
I'm sorry but I have to butt-in here (again?)
Vandy, you make heaven and Hell sound like places we go to as if there are hotels to be booked in to.
Heaven and Hell are states of conciuosness, states of mind. When Jesus walked amongst people he had to talk simply, hence all the parables but today, mankind's conciousness has moved on and we are better able to understand the deeper meaning of His teachings. At least some of us are. I exculde all sects and religions who deem to think they are "The Chosen One's"
JC came to show what man is. The Son of God. He came as an example and through trials and tribulations He showed us what we could be. Like Him. Perfect.
There is a parable were He tells of seeds falling on rocky ground that never grow. Other seeds find a cruck or cranny and grow for a short time until their strength wains. A few seeds find good soil and grow to perfection. Many are told but few understand.
* offtopic :
Vandy I should point out that I am alot older than you. in fact when I was your age religion was a bummer. I have alot of respect for you and wish you well
| | 0 @ 22-04-2005 21:14 Ethecide | 172 posts
| Eh... This is stupid, but what the hell.
I was reading old threads... And I saw this....
"Also, Jesus was god incarnate. No sin that means. If he was not married, he could not have sex. That is a clear sin."
Actually did you miss the part in the Bible where Jesus was baptised ... and therefore cleansed of original sin?
The only person free of all sin was the Virgin Mary.
Eh... Thats confusing.... I thought that Jesus was supposedly the only person without sin?heh. | | 0 @ 22-04-2005 21:15 ForeignKid | 986 posts
| I'm catholic but I dispise of it.. | | 0 @ 22-04-2005 21:20 Ethecide | 172 posts
| Heh. | | 0 @ 22-04-2005 21:46 italianguy | 82 posts
| I have a question for people who believe in any God, and it might sound stupid (im no theologicist). If God is all-powerful and omniscient, why does he need us to worship him/her/it (just want to be politically correct)? | | 0 @ 22-04-2005 21:46 italianguy | 82 posts
| *theologician | | 0 @ 22-04-2005 21:47 italianguy | 82 posts
| **theologian (damn i suk at this) | | 0 @ 27-04-2005 22:42 dkk | 250 posts
| I have a question for people who believe in any God, and it might sound stupid (im no theologicist). If God is all-powerful and omniscient, why does he need us to worship him/her/it (just want to be politically correct)?
Leaders of religion say we should worship.
Leaders of religion write the rules.
And these same leaders always want to protect their interests.
How the f**k can any man say what God wants? Where is the man who has sat with God, where is the man who doesn't need scriptures, where is the man who knows, first hand, by experience, what Truth is?
If there is such a person, he is keeping a low profile. In the meantime we are expected to take scriputes at face value and believe what other men tell us to believe. The problem is, man is not perfect and he tends to move goal posts to suit himself and the "Truth" becomes distorted.
As quoted in The Da Vinci Code, "History is written by the winners" | | 0 @ 27-04-2005 23:16 dkk | 250 posts
| http://godserver.com/aquariangospel/index.shtml
| | 0 @ 28-04-2005 01:22 italianguy | 82 posts
| Thanks for the insight dkk. However im still a bit puzzled. I understand that church leaders have their own reasons for wanting us to worship (an offering here, an offering there, and religion ends up being a multi-million dollars business), but then what should I do to reach salvation: just follow Jesus's path as described in the scriptures and believe in Him and his love? | | 0 @ 28-04-2005 02:43 vandy |
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| I was reading old threads... And I saw this....
"Also, Jesus was god incarnate. No sin that means. If he was not married, he could not have sex. That is a clear sin."
Actually did you miss the part in the Bible where Jesus was baptised ... and therefore cleansed of original sin?
The only person free of all sin was the Virgin Mary.
Eh... Thats confusing.... I thought that Jesus was supposedly the only person without sin?heh.
1) Jesus WAS God incarnate, and he DIDN'T sin, and he DIDN'T have sex, but that doesn't automatically assume that having sex is a sin. That's faulty reasoning.
2) Jesus was not cleansed of original sin, he had no need to be since he was not born with original sin. He's God, it would have been impossible. He was baptised to purify the waters of baptism.
3) Yes, the Catholic church teaches that the virgin Mary was free from the stain of original sin, but ONLY because of the grace of God and not by her own doing. The church also holds that she never sinned, also by the grace of God. (Raising Jesus was a pretty big job, and I guess God wanted someone perfect to do the job!) | | 0 @ 28-04-2005 12:06 dkk | 250 posts
| http://reluctant-messenger.com/aquarian_gospel.htm
hope this link works :-) | | 0 @ 28-04-2005 12:08 dkk | 250 posts
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