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Religious Inquiry

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@ 02-08-2004 06:32vandy is offline vandy  

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Do you have a question about a certain type of faith? Or just a general question asking about what it encompasses? Ask these questions here, someone's sure to know something!



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0    @ 02-08-2004 06:36LPsoldier is offline LPsoldier 
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its not a question, but i want to let everyone know that atheism is NOT worshipping the devil--think about it ppl, if i dont beleive in god(a greater good) how and WHY would i beleive in satan(a greater evil)? puh......
0    @ 02-08-2004 07:01nefariouslady_t is offline nefariouslady_t 
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Okay probably a silly question but I always wondered why if you are a practicing Catholic you can only eat fish on (I think it is on) Friday and no other types of meats on that day.
0    @ 02-08-2004 07:10vandy is offline vandy 

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Before the second Vatican council, it was customary that Catholics abstained from meat on Fridays. After the second Vatican council, it became a standard practice to abstain from meat only on Fridays during Lent and on Ash Wednesday. The reason for this is that Jesus died on a Friday, and it is the Catholic way of showing respect by making a small sacrifice that way. (I don't know why fish isn't considered meat in this case.)
0    @ 02-08-2004 07:15nefariouslady_t is offline nefariouslady_t 
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Thanks Meg, I always felt silly to ask that. But it makes sense now. =)
0    @ 02-08-2004 08:04Shira88 is offline Shira88 
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How nice, now I'm wont have to start a thread for this question. I always wondered about it: In Christianity there are all these saints or something, so my question is, who are they and why are they saints ir what did they do?

(I feel stupid now, but hell)
0    @ 02-08-2004 14:51x0babiejennz is offline x0babiejennz 
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well saints are normal people
i know this sounds wierd but its true, me and you could very well become a saint.
theres a whole bunch of saints, there are patron saints inwhich people pray to theres patron saints for orphans, teenagers, rape victims and a lot more.
a saint has to be dead to become a saint, and i think had to have three miracles, meaning if someone had a vision of someone they prayed to.
they have to be acknowledged for saint hood, and the pope annoints them.
theres a lot more to it but i think that sums it up
0    @ 02-08-2004 19:59cjaym88 is offline cjaym88 
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The Biblical saints are people who gave up everything to follow Jesus. The apostles were saints, Paul, Timothy...
But we don't worship the saints, we learn from them. We only worship Christ. Without Him, the saints were nothing. And so are we.
0    @ 02-08-2004 20:01NightHobbit is offline NightHobbit 
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Clya so are you saying with out a saint or God we're not worthy or justified as a person.
0    @ 02-08-2004 20:09Shira88 is offline Shira88 
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Right, thanks for the explenation.
0    @ 02-08-2004 23:04vandy is offline vandy 

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Louise honey,
*hugs*

That's not what anyone's saying. What he said was that saints would not be who they are if it weren't for the saving grace of God.
0    @ 07-08-2004 12:38Plantagenet is offline Plantagenet 

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I don't know why fish isn't considered meat in this case.

it's because in the old days, meat was a luxuary product, fish was in most countries much easier to get, so much cheaper. therefor, ppl made the little sacrifice eating a "poorer" meal on friday.
0    @ 07-08-2004 12:51Plantagenet is offline Plantagenet 

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about saints: there are different kinds of saints and so there are also rangs of saints (widespread and locals)

- apostles

- first christian martyrs (the martyrs of the prosecutions of the Roan emperors until the early 4th century)

- Churchfathers (confessors, men who made interpretations on the bible, a very important part of catholic tradition and bible-reding, the 4 most important Churchfathers of the early christian church were Anthonius, Hieronymus, Gregorius and Ambrosius, later, imortant scolars were also calculated in this group, like Thomas of Aquinas (13th century), Anselm of Canterbury (12th century)

- founders of religious orders (like St-Francis of Assisi, founder of the franciscans, or St-Dominius, founder of the Domninicans, etc)

-martyrs after the early christian church ( a whole bunch of people were still being executed, although christinanity was the official religion. Most of the later martyrs come from the period of the reformation and the religious wars in teh 16th century, one of them is the englih chancellor and humanist Thomas More)

- ppl with some sort of charisma, who were highly thought of by a religious community during their life and after their deaths, mostly ppl devoting their lives to religion, the chruch and charity.

- saints of the Counter-reformation (ppl who were important figures to the re-living of the catholic church in the late 16th and 17h entury (like Carrolus Borromeus, St-Theresa of Avilla, Rosa of Lima, etc)

ok, I hope I kind of list them all, of course there are also some sort of rules to make someoen a saint, but most of those are based on legends, cause if every saint really had done 3 miricals, heh, the word should have been a better place! hehe!

But, Saints are important figures to teh catholic church, their the exapmles to common people, on how to devote your live to religion and how to live a religious life, now, we don't literaly have to follow thier lives, but we have to take what is fittable in our lives.
0    @ 08-08-2004 05:13sillygurl89 is offline sillygurl89 
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what's a jehova's witness? comedy central was talkin about it and i didnt get it...
0    @ 08-08-2004 05:17BoOtAy426 is offline BoOtAy426 
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oh and I know this is weird but I always get Christian and Catholic confused...I cant even remember which one I am...I think I am Christian maybe?? Well if there is a difference what is the difference. I always ask this and always get different answers...most people dont know..
0    @ 08-08-2004 05:23CDNRoycer is offline CDNRoycer 
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a christian relgion is any religion that belives that jesus was the son of god, was born of a virgin, was crucified and died, and rose again.

there are many different denominations of christianity, they all interpret the bible differently and so they all belive slightly different things, but they all belive that jesus is salvation
0    @ 08-08-2004 05:26batmanpinkypunk is offline batmanpinkypunk 

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2 of my friends are jewish and he proposed to her but couldnt get on one knee b/c it was against the religon. can someone tell me why?
0    @ 08-08-2004 08:48Shira88 is offline Shira88 
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He couldn't get on one knee probably because 1) It's as if he bows down to her, and it's forbidden because you can only bow down to god, or 2) getting on one knee is a tradition of the goyim- the none Jewish people, and he can't do it because he's Jewish.
0    @ 08-08-2004 12:46Plantagenet is offline Plantagenet 

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oh and I know this is weird but I always get Christian and Catholic confused...I cant even remember which one I am...I think I am Christian maybe?? Well if there is a difference what is the difference. I always ask this and always get different answers...most people dont know..

as explained by someone above, Christianity is the whole group, but it's devided in different groupings:

(from old to new)

- orthodox church: first church founded by the apostles (mostly John and Paul), now mostly in Eastern Europe, Russia and Middle east.

- catholic church: the Church of Rome, founded by the apostle Peter, who was the first Pope, this one is the biggest grouping, spread all over the world (mainly half of the western european countries, south america)

- protestants: this group is again devided in hundreds of different sub-groupings, the first protestant movement that still go on today come from the 16th centuy Reformation, started by Maarten Luther (lutheranism) and Jean Calvin (calvinism). They went in against the Church of Rome and specially clericals and the sacraments. Today protestantism is also spead all over the world, but as I said, in many different forms.
There is a sort of middle-one between catholicism and protestantism, and that is the Church of England, founded by Henry VIII of England in 1530ies and bettered by his daughter Elizabeth I.
0    @ 08-08-2004 14:39BoOtAy426 is offline BoOtAy426 
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ooo ok thanks....I think I am catholic then..
0    @ 08-08-2004 21:21cjaym88 is offline cjaym88 
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From what I've heard, satanism, isnt about worshipping the devil, it about worshipping yourself. No wonder people like it so much, its what they do anyways.
0    @ 08-08-2004 23:03biteme13 is offline biteme13 
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That's a different way of putting it.


Anyway, Jehovah's Witnesses are like Christians, but they have several different beliefs:

1. The beleive that people who do not follow God but are not worthy of hell go to a lower kingdom.

2. You aren't allowed to do blood transfusions and stuff.

There's more but I can't think of it now. They come to talk to us every Saturday even though we're Catholic, so that's how I know it.
0    @ 08-08-2004 23:12almightybob is offline almightybob 
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*raises hand* please miss, i have a question. what is Wicca and what do they believe? i'd never heard of them before i read the name in this forum
0    @ 08-08-2004 23:15dashboard5 is offline dashboard5 
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not for sure but isn't it like witchcraft?
0    @ 08-08-2004 23:17Crazy_Joe is offline Crazy_Joe 
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I think Wicca has to do with using the power of nature.
0    @ 08-08-2004 23:27court_lew_0216 is offline court_lew_0216 
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wiccans are not really witches but they invoke the powers of the earth to use it for spells for good not evil. They believe in Manoh(sp) which is kind of like the universe but its not like a god, its a force

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