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10-01-2003 00:25goddessgurl is offline goddessgurl  

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I love this video! It's perfect for the song IMO




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16-02-2003 00:23Dekar is offline Dekar 


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I'm not sure if I stated my stance on homosexuality before, but in case I haven't I may as well thrown my two cents in! Actually, I had a conversation about this awhile ago with someone, I'll just paste that since I'm a lazy ass who doesn't want to type it all again. lol

Matt: I don't think it's natural, and I don't think it was ever meant to have happened. I personally believe it's a perversion of human nature. Having said that, I don't have a problem with people doing it. I am totally for people being happy and being themselves and would not ask them to change, nor do I want them to.

?????: Yeah, but many things aren't natural. Producing plastics isn't natural, machine labour isn't natural...it doesn't mean its bad.

Matt: Oh, I never meant to say that it's bad.

?????: Yeah, I know.

?????: Well, as long as your no gay-hater!

?????: Or you'd have to hate me.

Matt: I'm all for it, I'm completely liberal.

?????: I'm not gay, before you ask.

Matt: I wasn't going to ask. lol I'm not either, in case you're wondering too.
16-02-2003 00:25Pandora is offline Pandora 


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ha.. the question that was on all of our minds..

rock on
tabitha
16-02-2003 01:42Dekar is offline Dekar 


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Loser.
16-02-2003 22:01Masterful_Ally is offline Masterful_Ally 

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Matt! That convo was with me wasn't it???

Ally xxx
16-02-2003 22:06built2liv is offline built2liv 

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Well to start things off, I'm not gay, and I don't hate gays. I don't think its "right," but its not "wrong." What most people don't know is that homosexuality was the norm about 2-3 thousand years ago. Almost every male was bi-sexual or homosexual, especially in Greece and later in Rome. Young boys were used as playtoys, and when they grew older, they owned their own young boys for pleasure. I'm not really sure how it came to be outcasted in this world to be a homosexual male, but it never used to be. Just my two cents yet again.
17-02-2003 01:33Jez is offline Jez 

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Just to add on to B2l's last comments..... if anything homosexuality is coming back onto the forefront of things now.
It is much more widely accepted these days to be gay. No-one says anything bad about it, especially not in public.

I think it's good that people now can be far more liberal than they used to. I for one do not batter an eyelid if someone tells me that they're gay... just as so long as they don't crack onto me! I know... I should be so lucky! Hehe...

If you to ask me if I think homosexuality is natural I don't believe it is but it doesn't neccesarily make it wrong. Maybe it's evolution's way of cutting down the world population by making more people gay. Just a thought.
17-02-2003 02:31cheech is offline cheech 

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hey i love gay guys all the ones i know are so nice and such sweet hearts i find nothing wrong with two guys kissing either in fact i have a pic of justin and his boyfriend kissing nothing bad just a little kiss and i think its cute cuz justin isnt that open

im empty inside
cheech
22-02-2003 10:27Killah135 is offline Killah135 

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Burning Jones, just a question....if a really great person came on the forum, and you got on really well with them, they were good on the forum, etc. Then suddenly they announced they were gay........how would you act towards them then? Im just interested....i dont want to get into a fight here....but homophobia in my mind is wrong!xxx
26-02-2003 20:08FreeofInsanity is offline FreeofInsanity 

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burningjones... i am referring bak 2 ur statement "...Sex is there for a reason and enjoyment is a bonus and it encourages reproduction...."

sex is ther for a reason, but some people's reason's are different from others. Some people, most actually have sex because it shows (normally) you love this person and want to share a bit more with them. If everytime someone had sex, and their intentions were to reproduce, the world would be very crowded.

right well since every1's bein so polite about this...

i personally dont think you can hate someone for "their taste in lovers". 20% of the world is gay, 80% are straight, im sure about half of them will be having sex 2 reproduce. anyways the world is becoming over-populated so it really isnt a bad thing, if a 1/5 of the population choose not to reproduce. You have to keep an open mind, you know? get to know the person before you make judgements. I really disagree TOTALLY on ANYONE who says anything like "i hate ___(country/race)" cause that is to much of a vague prejudice. countries r big and you cant just hate everyone there because, of the place they live. And i think the saem bout homosexuals.

~*Keep an open mind, I will only understand your view if you know every single homosexual person in the world~*

xxxx
cya
* Love me I'm fragile *
26-02-2003 20:43Masterful_Ally is offline Masterful_Ally 

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Burning Jones can't post that much anymore you two!
I have, however, done quite alot of research on revisionism since Jones mentioned it - looking at both pro and anti revisionist sites. I have come to the conclusion that 'revisionists' are nothing but thinly veiled neo-nazi's who've given themselves a fancy name. I'm sorry. Maybe you wont see this, but I just had to say it, not trying to argue, just stating an opinion.

Ally xxx
26-02-2003 20:47FreeofInsanity is offline FreeofInsanity 

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can sum1 please explain exactly wat revisionism is? i have a rough idea...and marxism? (everytime i ask someone something inever get replied 2 )
27-02-2003 20:39FreeofInsanity is offline FreeofInsanity 

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yet another good example of bein ignored....lala
27-02-2003 22:46Masterful_Ally is offline Masterful_Ally 

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Revisionists are a bunch of Neo-nazi's who believe the holocaust was a big hoax - a big scam created by middle-class jews, and that it never happened...
*shakes head in disbelief*

Ally xxx
27-02-2003 22:51cheech is offline cheech 

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ok killah jones got to know me and for some reason she seems to like me then i told every one that im bi...i dont see her treating me any diff

peace
cheech
22-03-2003 04:12Lee is offline Lee 

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The only thing that bugs me about this video is the anorexic girl. It kind of seems like it's promoting it in a way.. you know, even if you're anorexic, you're still beautiful and it's OK. That bothers me. But the two guys kissing is no big deal at all, and the crossdresser.. so what?
22-03-2003 05:54cheech is offline cheech 

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just a little something from our friend jones...

MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!! Please stop, Ally, I've spent most of my older years (from eleven on up) struggling with neo-nazism... please please PLEASE stop saying that I am a neo nazi... you have no idea how long I have been trying to get away from that... I am sometimes a hateful person and I can't help that it seems, I try very very hard not to hate people because of what I believe, just please stop talking about it and asking me questions about it I CAN'T START DOWN THAT ROAD AGAIN, LEAVE ME ALONE... If you're gay or black or whatever it will not affect me friendship with you but it did once a while ago DON'T MAKE THAT START UP AGAIN... I've actually not been thinking about it lately and that is an acomplishment. So PLEASE just leave me the fuck alone. I am sensitive and I'm sorry but I can't do a damn thing about it, just stop it, ok, leave me alone.

peace
cheech
22-03-2003 13:16Masterful_Ally is offline Masterful_Ally 

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hey, hey, calm it down! I posted that around a month ago in response to Killah and Freeofsanity, and explained what a revisionist was only because freeofsanity wanted to know. I only did more research into Revisionism because you brought up the fact that you were a revisionist out of the blue way back in this post, and I wanted to get my facts straight. I got them straight, I made my conclusions, so sorry, but its the way I feel, I have as much right to state it as you have, and I did say I wasn't trying to argue. Plus it was a month ago now....

Ally xxx
16-04-2003 10:43musicslut is offline musicslut 

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Ok personally i htink Christina A is a wonderful artist and secondly i think being a homophobic is so f*c*ed up cause like how would u like it if gay people started critising you for being straight its not very nice is it?? and they chose to live that lifestyle

P.S no, im not gay or lesbo but alot of my friends are bi so you know..lay off..
16-04-2003 12:48Dekar is offline Dekar 


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I have a comment about the two gay guys in the video kissing.

There's nothing wrong with kissing in public, but I don't like it when it gets too intimate. They were openly tonguing! No one wants to see that. I don't care who you are: two guys, two girls, a guy and a girl...the orientation doesn't matter. I can handle holding hands or a peck on the lips here and there, but please save the making-out for a more private location.

On another note, I think it's ironic that her "Beautiful" video is where she looks the ugliest. She's been WHORIFIED!
16-04-2003 15:56Jez is offline Jez 

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Well actually Matt... she looked kinda nice in that video!! Yes sir... whorified? Yum!
16-04-2003 18:28Masterful_Ally is offline Masterful_Ally 

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I think she's naturally gorgeous and she's look alot better if she grew some eyebrows instead of drawing them on, and stopped dying her hair almost black and white, go back to 'natural' looking blonde or brunette. She's got a hot body *winks at Merlin* hehehe.


Ally xxx
20-04-2003 14:20kneups is offline kneups 

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there is something wrong with her feet
20-04-2003 17:30Mai_Lalaith is offline Mai_Lalaith 

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Well I love Xtina and I know all of her latest songs (Stripped) by heart! She's just great!!!
20-04-2003 19:06TheHappyColour is offline TheHappyColour 

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well i like christinas voice. I hate her image. she can do what she likes. Well you can think what you like about homosexuality, and i can't say i see your point but just to clear things up, you wouldn't hate someone or not talk to someone because their gay, right? Because i understand then, if you don't "believe" in homosexuality but as long as you don't discriminate...then...you know. by the way, where is burning jones now?
20-04-2003 19:19Masterful_Ally is offline Masterful_Ally 

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She got banned.

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