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Genocide

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@ 15-03-2004 01:13Schizo is offline Schizo  
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Genocide: n. The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

We were talking about this in Religion class... There's 3 types of genocide in the USA:

1. Abortion
2. Capital Punishment
3. Euthanasia

I think its sad the way these ppl are being killed just for being who they are... Anyone in here up for Capital Punishment? 'cause I never really was sure about that one.



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0    @ 15-03-2004 01:15El_Mono_Loco is offline El_Mono_Loco 
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1 and 3 aren't genocide based exclusively on the definition you gave alone.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:16El_Mono_Loco is offline El_Mono_Loco 
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2 isn't really either, but I can except that argument if you really wanna go into detail, but the other 2 are not, by any means, genocide.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:17Schizo is offline Schizo 
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Yeah, I know... but they're still getting killed for who they are, rite? I mean, just because those babies were concieved, those lil babies still get killed...
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:18Schizo is offline Schizo 
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Ugh, it should've been:

The systematic and planned extermination of a certain group.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:23El_Mono_Loco is offline El_Mono_Loco 
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Abortion's been argued in this forum since its insertion nearly 3 years ago, and a year and a half ago I met some of my closest forum friends arguing over it. In other words, its old news, and I don't feel it needs to be re-argued here, but the simple fact that most people were able to agree on is that it is impossible to tell when life actually begins, therefore, the fetus' that are aborted can't be 'killed' for who they are, because they aren't anything yet. Once again, this was more or less the public opinion last time this topic was argued, if you want to argue it again, then jump in on a few of the abortion topics that currently exist.

Now, for the means of genocide, abortion focus' on an extremely miniscule percentage of the worlds current mothers, therefore it can't be the extermination of an entire group because not every pregnant women has her fetus aborted, and I'm guessing the majority of women who have abortions aren't forced to.

Secondly, fetus' go not belong to any national, racial, political or ethnic group to speak of, therefore its impossible to classify their 'deaths' as genocide.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:25DarkAnimeAngel is offline DarkAnimeAngel 
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Genocide..I WILL GENOCIDE CHELSEA ( a cheerleader that's very annoying at my school) AND ALL HER FOLLWERS!!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHA lol!!!
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:26El_Mono_Loco is offline El_Mono_Loco 
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My dictionary simply states genocide as deliberate extermination of a people or nation, and seeing as how its so vague, its up for interpretation, but I still can't classify aborted fetus' as a people or nation seeing as how they are still such a small minority of existing fetus' in this country/world.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:27Schizo is offline Schizo 
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lmao

Dude, did you not see the correction thing? Besides, I just wanted to know about Capital Punishment.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:27DarkAnimeAngel is offline DarkAnimeAngel 
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oh..heh..I was kidding
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:28DarkAnimeAngel is offline DarkAnimeAngel 
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I'm not sure if I'm against or for Capital Punishment..so many things going on right now..
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:29Schizo is offline Schizo 
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Yeah, with the whole Same Sex Marriages thing there ain't much talk about Capital Punishment.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:29atz is offline atz 

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i totlay agree, and lets start with the small milk cartons they serv in schools and prisons, i mean come on. look at the violence in school, where there is a school there is Milk !!
look at the prison, almost every morning before the riots started, the prisoners were serverd Milk.

am i the olny one who sees it the kids in colombine, had milk in their wheeties that morning.

please i impar you all. we must BAN milk, it is the cause of all evil.





0    @ 15-03-2004 01:30El_Mono_Loco is offline El_Mono_Loco 
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No, because I was typing, and I could reiterate the same question to you about my own correction. Anyway, as I said before, if you felt like a very detailed argument, you may be able to persuade me to consider capital punishment, yet the facts you use would have to be extremely specific seeing as how not all the inmates in state or federal penetentiary are executed, and in many cases, not even all on death row.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:30El_Mono_Loco is offline El_Mono_Loco 
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atz.... ummm.... I don't even know how to respond to that, lol.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:32atz is offline atz 

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hopfully with a smile..

0    @ 15-03-2004 01:33THEMariah is offline THEMariah 
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trying to make friends again matt?
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:33Schizo is offline Schizo 
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I agree atz. Milk is evil.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:35El_Mono_Loco is offline El_Mono_Loco 
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Haha, of course Sweetness, its funny how things come full circle sometimes.... so have you been following our shows (yes I know its been like months, bu they're still our shows)?
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:37THEMariah is offline THEMariah 
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i only watch Everwood now but i always seem to miss it...i have to watch it tonight b/c i missed last monday's
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:38Schizo is offline Schizo 
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I din't meant that... Well... ferget it. Your opinion: Do you think it is it morally right to execute ppl convicted of major crimes? All I wanna know... besides, MadTV's on and I need to get off the compie...
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:39El_Mono_Loco is offline El_Mono_Loco 
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I think last monday was a repeat, oh, and did you see my post in that one thread? Jess and I were right, they did have sex, they had lots of sex, lol. Anyway, I'm mad at Angel, cause they're cancelling it and they did some f*cked up shit at the end of the last new episode (like 2 weeks ago). But anyway, One Tree Hill just got a lot better, and what else.... oh yeah, I'm so over 7th Heaven, I just wanna puke everytime I see it now.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:41THEMariah is offline THEMariah 
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7th heaven was always that way...i only watched it to appease you lol..and to see hayley that one time. and all my friends watch one tree hill but i usually forget it's on.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:41THEMariah is offline THEMariah 
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okay i have to go play a board game with my weirdo family now bubye boys and girls go on arguing if that's what you were doing...i didn't really read the topic...
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:43El_Mono_Loco is offline El_Mono_Loco 
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Schizo, Mariah and I have debated against this too, and she may have changed her opinion since then, but mine remains the same, I am neither for nor against it. It seems like a simple solution, plus it helps to instill fear in criminals knowing that there is a punishment to mimic their crime, it just costs too much. I heard its something like $30-40K just to execute one person. I'm sure we could find a way to make it more cost efficient. But anyway, I personally think its just if it fits the crime, like pre-meditated homicide or something of the sort. Outside of that, then no. So as you can see, I don't lean one way or the other.
0    @ 15-03-2004 01:44El_Mono_Loco is offline El_Mono_Loco 
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Lol, appease me, heh. And speakin of Hayley... when you gonna hook us up? Or at least with her older sister (I can't remember how old either of them are).

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