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26-09-2003 11:07 Masterful_Ally
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26-09-2003 11:10 Groovejet
5,848 posts	I personally think that same-sex marriages is just a trendy thing lately so that gay people can draw the attention to their minority problems. But as for me, I couldn't care less if they're allowed to marry or not..
26-09-2003 11:25 Plantagenet
12,864 posts	Why shouldn't homosexuals not be allowed to marry? I mean, if they love each other, then what's the problem with that? People who quote the bible to state that God sais they shouldn't marry are silly and should start to read whet the bible really says: "You shall not judge"...
26-09-2003 11:25 Guinness1759
5,220 posts	I think everyone should be married to the one they love without having other ppl butting-in. that goes for same-sex marrige as well as inter-racial marrige... no-one should care about nor intefere (sp!) with other ppl's love life...
26-09-2003 11:39 CatX3
2,297 posts	well marriage is about love and all that goes with it so why should two people being the same gender make a difference? I think it's really single minded to only say that heterosexuals are allowed to marry. I'm not a lesbian... but I know quite a few gay people and they're relationships are just as stable as any other... if not more.
26-09-2003 11:40 CatX3
2,297 posts	oh yea we had here a massive massive debate over same sex couples adopting kids aswell... I think most people here were fine with the idea...
26-09-2003 11:44 Plantagenet
12,864 posts	We recently have a law now, that homosexual couples are allowed tomary, but they're not allowed to adopt yet. I think it's rediculous, knowing that an awful lot of children are raised by 2 mothers and 2 fathers as well now...
26-09-2003 11:48 Jez
12,759 posts	Single sex marriages? Hmmmn.. as far as I know Ally, they are still not recognised in the law of the land of the UK. My views on it? Well to be honest, I don't really have a strong one on this particular issue. For sure, biologically, single sex marriages shouldn't be the case, but it does not affect me, or my life, in any way whatsoever.
26-09-2003 11:51 CatX3
2,297 posts	yea people reckon that the child won't cope and will be confused... the child will grow up with them and love them, can you imagine if the mode sexuality was homosexuality and the odd heterosexual wasn't allowed to adopt because the child would be confused... it's a load of toss...
26-09-2003 12:00 AnTiHurLeyPUnk1
2,232 posts	I think two guys being boyfriend and boyfriend is okay... But I'm not sure about getting married. I think that's taking it a little too far.
26-09-2003 12:01 Masterful_Ally
15,628 posts	Yeah Jezzy, I don;t think they were officially married in the eyes of the law, but they were to them, and they were simply celebrating their love for each other when a bunch of self righteous catholics butted in yelling 'not in my home' As for gay couples adopting...well, why not? My friends parents seperated when he was two, and his mother is a lesbian and has always been totally honest with him about it - he's never had a problem with it, and neither have his friends - you can't protect children from things like the fact that homosexuality exists - and why would you want or need to?! Ally xxx
26-09-2003 12:02 AnTiHurLeyPUnk1
2,232 posts	Also, you can't even have a kid, you have to adopt a child, that is, if the adoption agency lets two queers adopt a child. So then the kid has two grow up with two queers for fathers and no mother. AND, you can't even have normal sex, you have to pound each other in the a-hole.
26-09-2003 12:05 Masterful_Ally
15,628 posts	There is no such thing as normal sex, I know you are young and I hate to break this to you but a lot of straight couples enjoy anal sex too... And the reason most couples adopt is because they cant have children.... gay couples are facing this same problem - so what's the difference? And don't say they chose to be in that situation - you don't choose to be homosexual because you fancy a change or whatever - you just are. Ally xxx
26-09-2003 12:07 CatX3
2,297 posts	everyone is entitled to their own opinion I spose... but would you really hate it so much if you're parents were gay?
26-09-2003 12:09 Masterful_Ally
15,628 posts	I couldn't care less...
26-09-2003 12:10 Jez
12,759 posts	Hmmmn.... I know the most important issue when kids being adopted is that that they go to a place where they will be loved and cared for and not mistreated, neglected or abused. So saying that it shouldn't really matter whether they go to parents of the same sex or not. However, after a lot of thought over time, I still think single sex couples shouldn't be able to adopt. Why? Hmmn... well call me old fashioned but I think the basis of a child being brought up is that there should be a mother and a father. I know in this day and age this is not always the case but more often than not when a child is being brought up by a mother on her own, there is usually a 'father figure' somewhere... either an uncle or a grandfather etc... I just think that the children are missing that other sex influence when growing up, beit a male or female input which I think will affect how they develop mentally as they get older. I also feel that these children brought up by single sex parents will be endlessly ridiculed by other school children. We all know how cruel and hurtful children can be, without meaning to be, and I cannot help but think school will be a major heartache for these such children should their classmates find out that they are being brought up by single-sex parents. Now I know I am not homophobic. Shallow in my thoughts maybe, though I do not think so but homophobic I certainly am not. I just don't think it is appropriate for this to occur.
26-09-2003 12:12 Plantagenet
12,864 posts	I wouldn't hate it, if I hava 2 parents who love each other and love me and give me good eduaction and give me an open-minded upbringing, I wouldn't care if they were hmosexual or not...why the hell would that matter? How many children are actually brought up by their parents today anyway? Most mothers go out working... about the sex: sorry, but I don't see what this has to do with it, there are indeed as ally says heterosexuals have 'other' sorts of sex too, not only anal, but really like...all sorts of sex! lol What people do in their beds is non of our bussiness. If 2 people lov eeach other, they should be able to show it to the world like any other couple...
26-09-2003 12:13 Masterful_Ally
15,628 posts	There is no such thing as the model family anymore, I'm not sure there ever was, when model family life was enforced some f*cked up things were going on all the same! If I happened to be gay and loved and trusted another woman, I would be more than happy to bring up my children with her... Ally xxx
26-09-2003 12:14 Masterful_Ally
15,628 posts	(I agree with Plant on the sex thing - also, who thinks about how their parents have sex?! Who even wants to know, it's a disturbing thought, lol.)
26-09-2003 12:16 Plantagenet
12,864 posts	I said mothers go working, but obviusly the fathers too. Here I ant to react on the father-figuers-issue. this is a bit personal, so well...heh... My father has worked all his life more than 12 hours a dy, he still does and he is 48 now (he should really take it slower, but yeah well,money doens't grow on trees). By doing this, I never had really a father figure either...he came home when we had to go to bed...we hardly saw him (still btw). So...how many children do have the 'normal' father-mother-family?
26-09-2003 12:17 Plantagenet
12,864 posts	hha, yeah, ally, it is indeed a disturbing though! lol
26-09-2003 12:20 CatX3
2,297 posts	my family as I was growing up was far from normal and I turned out fine... well I think.. anyway I don't think that having a perfect family will make you perfect.. its the imperfections in life that make it interesting and a challenge for us... if I had two fathers I couldn't care less or 2 mothers... I don't think it really makes a difference and as you say who really wants to know what happens in parents bedrooms anyway... ugh!
26-09-2003 14:03 Coombes
1,334 posts	Ally why did you say you live in an irish and very catholic part of london? i thought your comment was about same sex marraiges. are you suggesting that the people who protested were irish? just wanna clear that up. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' yeah, Coombes, I wasn't saying that - I'm half Irish myself, for gods sake! I was merely pointing out that I live in a very Catholic area and that it is indeed highyl likely that these 'protesters' were devout catholics. Agreed? Ally xxx
26-09-2003 14:11 carole
28,823 posts	I dont think Ally was sayin that Coombes, lol. I personally love the Irish. I probably should stop saying that everywhere i go, lol. Oh and i think i evolve in an elite because no one i know is anti- gay marriages or anti- interracial marriages. This is just madness. Who are they to say whats right and whats wrong ? I say everybody has the right to be happy, period.
26-09-2003 14:14 Plantagenet
12,864 posts	indeed, Carole, I'd say that too! How can anoyone deny someone elses hapiness just because they're different from you? I mean, come on, that's simply discrimmination!
26-09-2003 14:15 carole
28,823 posts	Plus theres no real difference.