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one nation, 'under god' ?
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@ 14-09-2003 02:50 OmG_lYkE_LoLieZ | 30 posts
| i notice a lot of familiar shows like tough crowd discussed this debate, and my class has gone through this debate ...... eh, i cant count that high. anyway, i see both sides of the freaking debate.
to leave it as is: i dont see why anyone should get racked up about it! if you dont like it, dont look at it! dont say it! and although you have to recite the pledge of allegience to the flag when becoming a US citizen, you can just say it and not really go for it. and one other thing, when they say 'god' they mean supreme being, not necessarily the christain god.
to change it: it was added on to the pledge of allegience later, whats wrong with taking it off? and think of the atheists, they are descriminated and offended everytime the pledge of allegience is recited! and how would christians feel if it was "one nation under torah" or something like that?
soo.....
what side of the debat are you on? |
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 0  @ 14-09-2003 03:00 Not_Involved | 84 posts
| Separation of Church and State. 'Nuff said. | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 04:38 Lanna615 | 614 posts
| keep it. you dont need to say it if you dont want to, and its not actually praying to god... just a phrase. and i think the guy who made such a big deal about it just wanted attention. | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 06:21 cristobal265 | 224 posts
| I agree, keep it. Atheists suck anyways. | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 06:22 cristobal265 | 224 posts
| Jk, but if they keep all pissy about it, they shouldnt, people moved to america originally so they could practice their own religion. Plus, they should just ignore it.  haha I like that one | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 06:34 YubaCityCutie | 
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| Leave it....this nation was founded under God....and the people who f*****g bitch about it are the f*****g people who believe in "Allah" and shit....so f**k them.....Im sorry for my cussing but this is an issue I feel strongly about....
-------------------------------------------------- Yuba the swearing was hardly neccessary. Ally
| | 0 @ 14-09-2003 07:05 fallen_angel666 | 165 posts
| it doesnt matter what you think its civil rights religion is not compulsory there for it should no be compulsary to say it when stating you love your country plus americanism is a race not a religion | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 07:40 lucky_bob | 1,728 posts
| I'm not an American, so I don't even understand the concept | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 07:50 Rass | 5,430 posts
| there is nothing wrong with saying "under god" like previously said, this country was founded under god, but anyways, it doesn't mean a certain god, just god, the supreme and no matter what religion you are (other than atheist and maybe a couple others) you believe in one supreme god. and athiest's dont have a reason to complain, the word means nothing to them so how is it any skin off their noses? its not discrimination, dont wanna say it? dont say it | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 16:36 prinzess1518 | 170 posts
| um they do mean the Christian God. Thats what the country was based on. Don't like it then leave. Don't take away our right to say they pledge and who to honor. You dont like it then just dont say it. Thats life. | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 16:37 Rass | 5,430 posts
| the country wasn't based on a god, the country was based on the freedom to practice whatever religion you chose | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 16:38 Rass | 5,430 posts
| oh and if they have a problem with that they might as well stop touching our money too cause it all says "in god we trust" so  | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 16:40 prinzess1518 | 170 posts
| Rass what planet are you from? Where have you been? It was too based on God. Look at the pledge, trust in god on the dollar, and in court you swear on a Bible. A Christian Bible. Christianity doesnt say to harass others who believe differently so allowing others to be different is still the Christian way. | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 16:44 Dream27 | 6,205 posts
| oh yeah, i remember hearing this argument some time ago. i heard that they wanted to take it off or some shoot like that. but i do have to agree with the Separation of Church and State. thing. | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 16:45 Rass | 5,430 posts
| yeah but it doesn't matter becuase they aren't going to change it, if you think about it there really has never been a separation of church and state completely | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 16:48 Dream27 | 6,205 posts
| well yeah. that's true too. Seriously i don't care a lot a lot because i don't even do that lag thingy... I just stand up still mimiking who ever sais that lol. | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 17:03 Rass | 5,430 posts
| i'm all for the patriotism and stuff but i dont do it, i mean if everyone else does it i do it but if no one does it i'm not goin to be the fool  | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 17:03 prinzess1518 | 170 posts
| i dont want them to change it. to change it would go against what america stands for. to not allow us to say it will be taking away our freedom of speech | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 17:56 Egginator | 15,398 posts
| i think who cares. i never say the pledge anyway. people get too worked up over stupid shit. | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 17:58 Rass | 5,430 posts
| saying the pledge is about respect -.- thats why people get worked up over it, by refusing to say the pledge you are refusing to show the USA respect which you owe it for living here | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 17:59 Egginator | 15,398 posts
| it's words
only goddamn words
two at that
just don't say those two words if it really bothers you
i still think people are getting worked up over nothing
try getting worked up over something more substantial | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 20:58 lucky_bob | 1,728 posts
| excuse me, but America was founded on the blood and backs of Indians and blacks... not under God - please read your history books | | 0 @ 14-09-2003 23:29 rawkerNoNagal | 9,981 posts
| so many things in the USA are founded on the belief of Christianity that it's hard to keep up. if you don't like the words, do not say them. | | 0 @ 15-09-2003 02:03 xxxDARKIRISxxx | 1,400 posts
| The U.S. (well not just the U.S.. almost everywhere) treats religion as fact
religions are theorys not facts
nuff said | | 0 @ 15-09-2003 02:05 xxxDARKIRISxxx | 1,400 posts
| lucky bob - u should read lies my teacher told me
duno who wrote it
but it has all this shit that the history books dnt tell u or tell u wrong.. | | 0 @ 15-09-2003 02:07 prinzess1518 | 170 posts
| lucky i wasnt aware that they wrote the bill of rights, or the constitution, or had anything to do with the forming of the u.s. government |
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