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Shootings at Virginia Tech

16-04-2007 16:54

Pandora

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update:

recent article

The gunman responsible for at least the second of the two Virginia Tech attacks that claimed 33 lives to become the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history has been identified as Cho Seung-Hui, a campus student in the United States on a permanent resident visa.

Cho, the shooter was a resident of Centerville, Va with his family, but lived on campus at VT. There were two shootings on campus, both weapons found on Cho were used in both shootings so authories are assuming right now that he was the only shooter, but that he might have had help from others.

The Chicago Tribune reported that the note included a rambling list of grievances that railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on campus. The paper also reported that Cho died with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on the inside of one of his arms.

Quoting an "investigative source," the newspaper said Cho had shown recent signs of violent, aberrant behavior, including setting a fire in a dorm room and allegedly stalking some women, and that he was taking medication for depression. The Tribune also reported that Cho's family runs a dry cleaning business and he has a sister who atatended Princeton University. Cho and his family came to the United States in 1992, when he was 8 years old.

Cho was found amoung the student's he slain, believed to have ended his own life by shooting himself in the head. A list of the victims.

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this is insane... there could be around 20 people dead right now? This uni had bomb threats called in recently.. do you think they aren't taking these threats seriously enough?

It's been a bad month, April always seems to be.. it's not even made it to the 20th. There was a kid with a bomb at my old highschool last week... and now this.

Evidently he shot a teacher, he's lined up some of the kids and shot them exacution style.. and he was actually searching for his girlfriend? This following that other guy that shot his girlfriend then tried to kill himself at the CNN building in ATL... a couple of weeks ago.

=( what's the world coming to? why are all of the warning signs being ignored?

there was a quote in a local news article I read the other day which is completely true :
"Look at the case studies, including Columbine. We find out time after time that a certain number of students knew something wasn't right before something ever happened."

something should seriously be done about this.

rockon
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16-04-2007 17:24 DUFSEN
1,049 posts	This is quite horrible, but there's no logic way to lower the amount of school-shootings. Seeing that it's only a problem in USA, it migth be related to the gun-laws. Anyways, peace to all dead, injuried and physically hurt.
16-04-2007 17:56 carole
28,823 posts	i just heard about that in the news.. its horrible... so much pain, so many people in shock, so many families hurt... human beings are evil to the root, dont put guns in their hands..
16-04-2007 18:10 dark_knight86
4,992 posts	It's horrible news, where is it safe when you can't go to school without worrying about someone with a gun at school.
16-04-2007 18:11 DUFSEN
1,049 posts	damn, now it's 32 dead. Still peace onto everyone.
16-04-2007 18:18 Pandora
23,369 posts	new article with some pretty graphic pictures. this is horrible. They had two very recent bomb threats called in... I don't really know much about the shooter... but this is horrible... far worse than Columbine. I know they can't really control the mass chaos of school shootings but alot of these situations are the result of kids in highschools that are bullied or whatever, but CMON, you know these kids when they walk into your classroom... the STUDENTS know when they see these kids walking down the hallways.... someone should do something about it. Counseling... help groups. People keep avoiding the obvious because they don't want to feel like they could have done anything, because no one likes the guilt of knowing that they didn't. rockon tabitha
16-04-2007 18:29 batmanpinkypunk
22,438 posts	i just saw this on yahoo. it is really insane, upsetting & disgusting. i really dont know what to say right now. i'll just keep updated on it.
16-04-2007 18:32 NightHobbit
23,504 posts	We don't have gun crime over here but more or less knife crime we don't have any of those kind of problems in school but i hope the families will one day be at peace.
16-04-2007 18:34 Pandora
23,369 posts	Even if there were more strict gun laws in the US.. I don't think it would change anything. It's just like drugs, they are outlawed but they are still everywhere.. American's have gotten so used to their guns, and they won't just let go of them. rockon tabitha
16-04-2007 18:38 NightHobbit
23,504 posts	I know how it would be more difficult to eradicate it in america. Who's betting now though that the police or the parents are gunna blame it on Marilyn Manson or something else, god forbid it would be their parenting.
16-04-2007 18:49 DarXide
6,282 posts	Well that's pathetic. But by any means, I'm not shocked. If it was a student, it's even worse.
16-04-2007 18:53 feather1
136 posts	i just found out about this in my 4th hour class.. and they said 21 dead.. now 32..=/ that's creepy, and if this doesn't make people start to take threats more seriously.. then i don't know what will!
16-04-2007 18:53 Pandora
23,369 posts	They don't even know if he was a student yet, evidently it's an Asian guy... he doesn't look very young =\ so I doubt they will blame music. they haven't even mentioned music/video games about the kid here with the bomb, it's bad parenting and bullying... what's worse is one of my best mates got into a bad fight last year with the bomb kid and plowed his face into the dirt.. just because the kid said he was going to kill Bj's family.. =\ so you can't call it bullying if he's just getting beat up for running his mouth... but once BJ heard about him bringing the bomb, he was like 'wow he could have really tried to kill me'. rockon tabitha
16-04-2007 18:54 mikey_boy
20,510 posts	im sure someone will blame it on video games or music. people cant just understand that some people are fucked up. like the guy who shot up the college in canada some months ago.
16-04-2007 19:07 Pandora
23,369 posts	article on school shootings which .. has alot that I didn't even know about. rockon tabitha
16-04-2007 19:15 Pandora
23,369 posts	they are blaming this game as of now... =\ which is a HORRIBLE video game.. I mean wtf. rockon tabitha
16-04-2007 19:20 DarXide
6,282 posts	What kind of people have the nerve to createsuch games?
16-04-2007 19:33 Bucephalus
3,872 posts	Very tragic. I'm sick of people blaming other stuff though. Video games, music, blah blah. But even bullying... Shut up about it. Yeah sure, bullying isn't nice and I'm sure it makes the victim feel bad, but believe it or not, there are other ways to deal with bullies. Shooting up a school isn't one of them. And what exactly do you want to happen Tab? You're calling for everyone to quit ignoring the warning signs and stuff. So counseling groups are the answer? Yeah, that will solve everything. Every time there is a bomb threat, do you want the schools to shut down for a week or so? Or every time some kid seems a little out there or weird we should call the police? Point is that there's nothing you cna even do about it. Unless you want to do strip searches every morning at every school, it's useless. Just accept the fact that soem kids are fucked up and choose to shoot up their school as a result.
16-04-2007 19:44 Pandora
23,369 posts	well what if the acceptance if things like that just isn't good enough for me? This kid that brought the bomb to school at Jackson County was seriously messed up, yes. But if he had really wanted to go and blow up the school, he would have done it... and not gotten talked out of it. I seriously believe this was just some riot for attention. Hearing about how his life was in the highschool shows that someone noticed his actions and reactions. Someone could have tried to help even if it didn't do anything. What's the harm in trying to help? You aren't locking people away. I know at JC they have a type of youth mediator team that gets down to the middle of conflicts... conflict management if you would.. they keep alot of fights from happening... have helped alot of kids out in various ways.. theres no reason not to try. I'm not talking about locking all the weird kids up.. but even before Columbine those kids had put up hit lists and horrible things on websites for years. How big of a warning sign is that? Why are things like that ignored? Even if a kid isn't going to shoot up his school, kids that aren't happy, that are bullied.. that are mean/hateful should be counselled or helped to over come their issues, they shouldn't just be ignored... sometimes it's not a 'phase'... sometimes it's not 'just life'.. rockon tabitha
16-04-2007 19:59 mayana07
17,054 posts	I think they're up to 31 now. I can't believe it....I dont understand the security measures of school...of course i'm not blaming it on the school, just like...how? you know. I just...can't believe it.
16-04-2007 20:03 Dagor
38,012 posts	I wonder what shocks me most .. the shooting or that fact that people are mentarrly that far to accept it
16-04-2007 20:04 Dagor
38,012 posts	*mentally
16-04-2007 20:04 PunkRckr8
11,632 posts	Tragic, messed up, whatever you wish to label it as, go for it. But as far as: why are all of the warning signs being ignored? there was a quote in a local news article I read the other day which is completely true : "Look at the case studies, including Columbine. We find out time after time that a certain number of students knew something wasn't right before something ever happened." This is because the so called "warning signs" aren't anything major, or at least not easy to find. Yeah, so a kid is acting depressed, or having a bad week. Or maybe they have a hit list, but that hit list is almost always found after the fact. Like Curt said, we can't shut everything down just to check on one person, which is a little sad, but its reality. And of course all the facts aren't in yet, but I don't quite see how a bomb threat is in anyway related to the shooting. Maybe they will be linked later, but as of now, the school did the right thing, they shut down in response to the threat, I'm sure they were looking into it further, but in no way does bomb threat = oh my I bet someone is going to go on a shooting spree. And these supposed "case studies" are complete bunk. Anyone can say that they knew something wasn't right after the fact. Its the same thing with trying to identify suspects by memory, most people can't do it because their minds change things too easily. I could have said that I had a feeling terrorist would attack the US someday, after 9/11 happened, big deal. I'm also not advocating that absolutely nothing be done. But its not up to random everyday people to go picking out who they think is messed up and going to do harm. That would just lead to the crying wolf syndrome where no one cares about anyone's suspicions. It all boils down to the the family and close friends.
16-04-2007 20:04 mayana07
17,054 posts	mikey_boy # 3655272 @ 04-16-2007 02:54 PM 19,178 posts im sure someone will blame it on video games or music. I highly doubt music or video games were an influence to a man. maybe young kids that think it's real but it's not...idk.... Grown people know what they're doing. and he killed himself...wtf. okay so not only are you hurting your family..you just murdered 31 other people with families as well. and for what? what good did he solve?
16-04-2007 20:09 Bucephalus
3,872 posts	All you need is a loaded gun and know how to fire it to shoot up a school..Or anywhere, actually. Nothing but your conscience can stop you. Not exactly rocket science. But seriously, just accept it. It's gonna happen no matter how many classes or security things you put in. People are just messed up. It's life and you deal with it.
16-04-2007 20:11 batmanpinkypunk
22,438 posts	i have a feeling VT is really gonna get slammed about the way they handled things badly in this situation.