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@ 03-05-2006 15:55 lilro | 315 posts
| do u think that america is just looking for reasons to start war on iran and what justifies it having nuclear weapons and other countries not having?  |
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 0  @ 11-06-2006 17:21 Rise | 560 posts
| Apart from this bit right here:
You must know how great the American Intelligence is (the best in the world)
Unintentional sarcasm. I like it.
No state in the world would attack America out right, of course they wouldn't. Nor would they be dumb enough to drop a nuke on one of its allies; both would yield the same consequence.
But the basis of the argument on the American side is that they could (eventually) produce nuclear weapons and then supply them to terrorist groups who share their same anti-Western views - in essence, nuclear offensive by proxy.
Its only hypothisis, and the spin doctors in Washington will play up the tiniest threat to support their own agenda, but still its not a fear that is outside the region of plauisiblity or is instantly discreditable. | | 0 @ 12-06-2006 06:28 Fierce_Cubs | 83 posts
| basically, it's not as simple as launching a few nukes, destroying the country, and everyone else lives happily ever after. Nuclear weapons will never be used as an attack by a mentally stable government. Problem is, The Iranian President is insane. Preventative measures are necessary and have already begun. Countries have even offered to enrich their uranium for Nuclear Power Plant purposes, but they turned down the offers.
Sanctions, if failed will turn to Resolutions, with the last result of a coalition ousting of Iranian leadership. | | 0 @ 12-06-2006 07:49 missLP | 818 posts
| ^ agreed | | 0 @ 12-06-2006 13:57 AlmightyShmun | 1,189 posts
| Yes, and then we can slip on in and instate a delightful little puppet government, headed by a despot the likes of which the region hasn't seen since the darkest days of the Mad Caliph. | | 0 @ 12-06-2006 14:24 BynnaD | 
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| At the end of the day, Iran is challenging America for its World power. America is all leikz  dis and Iran was all leik  and  dat.
It's fairly simple really | | 0 @ 12-06-2006 14:27 DarXide | 
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| pfft.. there should be no discussions regarding the domination of US over each and every country one by one. The truth is all out in the open anyway. | | 0 @ 12-06-2006 14:28 BynnaD |
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| Why not? The point of relevance is always an issue | | 0 @ 12-06-2006 14:40 AlmightyShmun | 1,189 posts
| I'm sure we'll invade at some point.
At which point our operations will finally implode in a long-overdue fashion, with much mutiny and bloodshed within our own military.
And I shall giggle away the months as more and more soldiers perish foolishly in a situation they could've avoided in the first place. | | 0 @ 13-06-2006 11:01 Rootan | 7 posts
| Well... My point was that Iran itself is not a threat. Thanks to some president, many people think that Iran is!
And...I do NOT think Iranian president is insane.
Actually I was quite amazed by the way he drew attention from all the countries...
I am guessing that people say he is crazy because he has said something like "Israel does not exsist" or "holocaust didn't happen."
Well, I would not say it was a nice thing to say. And it was not a wise decision either.
But look, he's got all the attention and even the reluctant US is now trying to have a talk with them... Iran must have wanted to talk with US and they got what they wanted.
Just have to be careful with the incentive offers though...
And how Iran will negotiate with EU and US... Very interesting. | | 0 @ 13-06-2006 14:47 missLP | 818 posts
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a good different idea.tanx  | | 0 @ 14-06-2006 19:40 Plantagenet | 
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| Problem is, The Iranian President is insane.
even if he would be (would he get elected if he were, one might ask), he has not the final power (as I explained in my utterly long and probably boring, but quite important in this issue-first post in this topic). Ayatollah Kamenei has, he's the Supreme Leader, all depends on him. The President can say what he likes, but he can not execute that without Kamenei's permission. And the Ayathollah isn't a stupid man, far from it... | | 0 @ 15-06-2006 21:37 Rootan | 7 posts
| Nukes will never be used by a mentally stable government?? 
Well.. then does that mean America back in Cuban missile crisis (or still now) was/is mentally unstable? It was pretty close (the US almost pressed the button) to Nuclear wars I believe?
Mutual Assured Destruction can happen and we can't say any of the countries that are considered to be 'stable' will not use them.
And I do not think Iran is challenging America. What they want is, I guess, influence over the Middle East. Israel has the most powerful army (supported by the US, with money and technology... I hear it's almost 3 billion dollars a year and they are paying money to Egypt as well) in the region and also it's the only country in the Middle East that has nukes.
So yeah, as the US say, Iran may be intending to have one in the future.. But who knows.
Balance of power (or hegemon) in the region is the main interest of Iran I think. (I am NOT saying that Iran WILL definitely make one, but there is a possiblity and good reasons for it.
But does that justify trying to force Iran to stop the enrichment...? Maybe people say "yes" but how would it feel if we were Iranians... I'd feel deprived of rights.
I know that it would be a huge threat for all the countries if many countries started to make nukes but... I don't know. |
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