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Olivia_Ka | 27-06-2016 20:25
Rest In Peace, lovely Hermine.
zjenn4 | 20-07-2016 00:07
Sorry y'all, I just need to rant somewhere because the arguments in my head aren't working. There is really no need for anyone else to read or respond to this post.
I've been struggling a little at work. It's not that there's drama (Mr Meaniehead is now gone-gone for good now, so there really is zero drama at my job), and it's ridiculously easy. And for the most part, I enjoy it. I like working on projects. But, my Supervisor does the exact same job, in fact, I do more than he does, and he gets paid more. I am not sure what he does to be considered my superior other than he approves my time card.
I work on the long term projects, I monitor the sample file we issue to clients, I help create half of the training materials, I train the new employees, I do all the talking in the team meetings, I am the one who put together the list of what everyone works on, I respond to all the inquiries that come in, I am the one who answers all the questions regarding the database (including from my supervisor because he doesn't know), I am the one who has to explain the shitty 'enhancements' Mr Meaniehead implemented because no one knows that they are, I am the on who has to go back over what my supervisor works on because he does it wrong, I am the one who communicates and smooths things over with the sales team because no one knows what anyone else does in the company (because there is zero communication between departments), I am the one who put together the spreadsheet of on-going database issues that need to be fixed and discussed them with our department head, I am the one who requested that my 'supervisor' be added to the call list regarding changes made to the database so our team is represented...I realize I sound really full of myself right now, but I really do all these things.
My "supervisor" comes in like 5 minutes before I do and then teases me about coming in at 9:05 and being late all the time. He also spends 20 minutes every hour on facebook and/or groupon, he gets news flash notifications and always shares them (which is great he keeps us in the know, but it's really distracting), he takes smoke breaks, breaks to chat on the phone, he basically just stops working by 4:30 and then he leaves by 5:30 everyday. So I'd say he's only productive maybe 4 hours out of an 8 hour work day.
I should be the supervisor. I've only been with this company 8 months and I am already bored. I like my supervisor, but I do his job and yet he's the one paid for it. So really I'm frustrated. I am trying to wait at least a year to see where this all goes, and see if I can work on a promotion. I'm trying not to step on toes or go around people, but come on. I'm tired of doing other peoples' jobs and not being recognized/compensated for it. They did this to me at the bank and when I complained about it they blacklisted me from being promoted. Because God forbid a woman make a stand and not sound like a whiny bitch.
I feel like I am at a loss. If I complain, then I look like I'm not a team player and that I'm whiny and annoying. If I do nothing, then all the things I do that are extra don't get recognized and he gets credit for them. I don't want to keep bouncing from job to job, because it looks bad and it keeps me from developing good rapport with the company and chances of promotion. But I feel like I keep getting taken advantage of because I learn fast and can do more. Maybe I should start looking for management level positions. I don't really have experience as a manager and I don't want to get in over my head, but since I end up doing their job anyway... Ugh, I dunno. I should go into business for myself, but I can't be the face of the company/the one making things happen and talking to people. I am the behind the scenes person that knows how it all works and keeps thing organize, running and from falling apart.
Grrr. Grrr. Grr!
I've been struggling a little at work. It's not that there's drama (Mr Meaniehead is now gone-gone for good now, so there really is zero drama at my job), and it's ridiculously easy. And for the most part, I enjoy it. I like working on projects. But, my Supervisor does the exact same job, in fact, I do more than he does, and he gets paid more. I am not sure what he does to be considered my superior other than he approves my time card.
I work on the long term projects, I monitor the sample file we issue to clients, I help create half of the training materials, I train the new employees, I do all the talking in the team meetings, I am the one who put together the list of what everyone works on, I respond to all the inquiries that come in, I am the one who answers all the questions regarding the database (including from my supervisor because he doesn't know), I am the one who has to explain the shitty 'enhancements' Mr Meaniehead implemented because no one knows that they are, I am the on who has to go back over what my supervisor works on because he does it wrong, I am the one who communicates and smooths things over with the sales team because no one knows what anyone else does in the company (because there is zero communication between departments), I am the one who put together the spreadsheet of on-going database issues that need to be fixed and discussed them with our department head, I am the one who requested that my 'supervisor' be added to the call list regarding changes made to the database so our team is represented...I realize I sound really full of myself right now, but I really do all these things.
My "supervisor" comes in like 5 minutes before I do and then teases me about coming in at 9:05 and being late all the time. He also spends 20 minutes every hour on facebook and/or groupon, he gets news flash notifications and always shares them (which is great he keeps us in the know, but it's really distracting), he takes smoke breaks, breaks to chat on the phone, he basically just stops working by 4:30 and then he leaves by 5:30 everyday. So I'd say he's only productive maybe 4 hours out of an 8 hour work day.
I should be the supervisor. I've only been with this company 8 months and I am already bored. I like my supervisor, but I do his job and yet he's the one paid for it. So really I'm frustrated. I am trying to wait at least a year to see where this all goes, and see if I can work on a promotion. I'm trying not to step on toes or go around people, but come on. I'm tired of doing other peoples' jobs and not being recognized/compensated for it. They did this to me at the bank and when I complained about it they blacklisted me from being promoted. Because God forbid a woman make a stand and not sound like a whiny bitch.
I feel like I am at a loss. If I complain, then I look like I'm not a team player and that I'm whiny and annoying. If I do nothing, then all the things I do that are extra don't get recognized and he gets credit for them. I don't want to keep bouncing from job to job, because it looks bad and it keeps me from developing good rapport with the company and chances of promotion. But I feel like I keep getting taken advantage of because I learn fast and can do more. Maybe I should start looking for management level positions. I don't really have experience as a manager and I don't want to get in over my head, but since I end up doing their job anyway... Ugh, I dunno. I should go into business for myself, but I can't be the face of the company/the one making things happen and talking to people. I am the behind the scenes person that knows how it all works and keeps thing organize, running and from falling apart.
Grrr. Grrr. Grr!
Joeyy | 20-07-2016 01:26
Is there anyone higher up you can speak to privately about the work issue? Someone who might be willing to look into what you're saying about how much work you do in comparison, without telling him what's going on? It's probably not going to change unless someone becomes aware of the issues.
zjenn4 | 20-07-2016 01:39
I could either go to the department head, or HR. What I am fighting with is, I don't want to throw anyone under the bus, and if I went to either of those options, I wouldn't have a choice. I just want the extra things I am doing to hold merit and be recognized. I don't want to make anyone look bad. I don't know how to be like, I do a, b, c, d, e,f & g without overshadowing the rest of my team. And I like and don't mind doing all these other things, they're easy. It's just that, I know I am doing more but being paid less, and there is no reason for that.
He's my supervisor. He should know the in's & out's of the database just as well as I do. He should know what all the new enhancements are, how they work, what doesn't etc. He should be the one keeping lists of the on going issues. He should know what my friend and I are working on, I shouldn't be the one informing him and making lists about it. He should be the one making sure there are job aids for all the things we do. He should be the one leading the meetings and discussing things. He should be the one communicating with the other departments. The problem is, he doesn't do any of these things, I do. Again, I don't mind, but these are things the supervisor should know and be doing if he is going to be paid to be the supervisor. If he wants to let me handle everything that way he can shop on groupon all day, fine, but then I should have his job title and salary and he can have mine. I don't care if he only works 2 hours a day and spends the rest on facebook, as long as I am the one with the title and being paid for the extra work.
I guess I just don't know how to approach things yet, without going behind someone's back. And he is the one who does my reviews and stuff, so it's not like he can tell me I don't do all those things. But whether or not he tells his boss that I do them so I can be promoted is what I am unsure of. But, I will keep an eye on things and give it a year before I start making any crazy decisions. An opportunity might open up if I can just hold tight.
He's my supervisor. He should know the in's & out's of the database just as well as I do. He should know what all the new enhancements are, how they work, what doesn't etc. He should be the one keeping lists of the on going issues. He should know what my friend and I are working on, I shouldn't be the one informing him and making lists about it. He should be the one making sure there are job aids for all the things we do. He should be the one leading the meetings and discussing things. He should be the one communicating with the other departments. The problem is, he doesn't do any of these things, I do. Again, I don't mind, but these are things the supervisor should know and be doing if he is going to be paid to be the supervisor. If he wants to let me handle everything that way he can shop on groupon all day, fine, but then I should have his job title and salary and he can have mine. I don't care if he only works 2 hours a day and spends the rest on facebook, as long as I am the one with the title and being paid for the extra work.
I guess I just don't know how to approach things yet, without going behind someone's back. And he is the one who does my reviews and stuff, so it's not like he can tell me I don't do all those things. But whether or not he tells his boss that I do them so I can be promoted is what I am unsure of. But, I will keep an eye on things and give it a year before I start making any crazy decisions. An opportunity might open up if I can just hold tight.
roxcyn | 22-07-2016 02:36
It's really who you know and the connections. In one of my previous roles - I had a similar situation. The supervisor knew very little and everyone knew more than him. Other than taking supervisor calls (which most of the time he refused to do that and wanted us to send them to his voicemail ), he did the same job as us. It *IS* frustrating to know you're doing more than your fair share.
I would recommend getting an e-book about it. Here's what I would do - make your case of what you do. You don't have to mention anyone's names:
I talk in the meetings.
I review everyone's work.
I am the go-to person if someone has questions.
I'm the trainer.
(or whatever other role).
What you want to say is what you're offering the company and then request more compensation. You don't have to mention your supervisor at all. If you have a good rapport with him, I would discuss it and see if he's authorized to do it - or find out how can. You should get paid more!
I would recommend getting an e-book about it. Here's what I would do - make your case of what you do. You don't have to mention anyone's names:
I talk in the meetings.
I review everyone's work.
I am the go-to person if someone has questions.
I'm the trainer.
(or whatever other role).
What you want to say is what you're offering the company and then request more compensation. You don't have to mention your supervisor at all. If you have a good rapport with him, I would discuss it and see if he's authorized to do it - or find out how can. You should get paid more!
Olivia_Ka | 01-08-2016 16:44
Oh dear, my past of occasional smoker is frightening me, I stopped more than one year and half ago - only 10 cigs in nearly 11 years - neither was I a smoker in (late) high school nor a nicotine addict, I get kinda disgusted easily afterwards. An American cancer stick (from the most sold brand in France) and red holder in hand, I either sat down in the balcony relax chair or stood near it between April and May, 3 years ago. Today, I found some ash on it. Looks brownish and white at different sides.
This month of July was not so easy, since I have a problem with my portable radio set : I cannot turn the volume down while turning the sound control - and my ears were kind of damaged after midnight. Have to check it out again. For the moment, I have to use my new mobile phone. It has a different set of earphones and the left side sometimes disturbs me.
After the youngest of my couple of cats passed away (June 27), we are not determined yet to find a new (cat) for Excel's company. My parents and I had no thought we would see 'dame Hermine' alive for the last time. I received a small message from the vet's, grieving and praising our lovely 'cat companion' at the same time. She was only 4 years old - the third loss I faced over a year's course, after turning thirty. As a result, I mourned for 2 days straight. More recently, I got my left arm clawed by Excel - he seems to be afraid of bare feet.
Went to a pizzeria last week (July 27) : it had been a promise for months, and finally realised 10 months after! I had a 'Goat Honey' pizza, even if it looked too much for me, I managed to finish it - cream base, slices of goat cheese, honey and walnuts. It was my idea to have one without tomato sauce and without ham/meat. Delicious! My mother had a 'Neapolitan' one and my father, an 'Oriental' one. For the drink : either water or normal Coke - although Coke Zero is my current favorite.
* offtopic :
There would also be an Italian beer of the brand 'Peroni', but I do not drink alcohol.
Now, they would like to make the same recipe at home! Wonder if it's going to taste the same. I would like to go there once again, maybe this month?
On July 20, I celebrated my birthday and my aunt (the youngest of my father's sisters) was invited too. I did not blow the candles straight away because my other aunt (my father's other sister) was singing "Happy Birthday 2 U" on the phone, ha-ha. Again, the same kind of cake as last year, even though I do not like kiwi. I got everything I wanted bar the shower gel (3 days later). I got a turtle-pendant necklace, only as a reference to one of my favourite French singers - my darling, nicknamed "the turtle" at his beginnings, exactly 10 years ago. And sudoku too, 3 different levels, I have done more than half of them. Finally, a box of Quality Street - my 3 favourites are still the purple one (hazelnut), the blue one (coconut) and the red one (strawberry-flavoured).
Seems like this song and that one appear to have a negative impact on me. I recognized the same male singer in them, didn't I?
Feeling bitter on this first day of August. I had to tie my hair and wear a black-and-white striped summer dress because of this heat. Going to fill my glass with some cheap, low-quality sugarless fruit soda before taking a shower. Great!
This month of July was not so easy, since I have a problem with my portable radio set : I cannot turn the volume down while turning the sound control - and my ears were kind of damaged after midnight. Have to check it out again. For the moment, I have to use my new mobile phone. It has a different set of earphones and the left side sometimes disturbs me.
After the youngest of my couple of cats passed away (June 27), we are not determined yet to find a new (cat) for Excel's company. My parents and I had no thought we would see 'dame Hermine' alive for the last time. I received a small message from the vet's, grieving and praising our lovely 'cat companion' at the same time. She was only 4 years old - the third loss I faced over a year's course, after turning thirty. As a result, I mourned for 2 days straight. More recently, I got my left arm clawed by Excel - he seems to be afraid of bare feet.
Went to a pizzeria last week (July 27) : it had been a promise for months, and finally realised 10 months after! I had a 'Goat Honey' pizza, even if it looked too much for me, I managed to finish it - cream base, slices of goat cheese, honey and walnuts. It was my idea to have one without tomato sauce and without ham/meat. Delicious! My mother had a 'Neapolitan' one and my father, an 'Oriental' one. For the drink : either water or normal Coke - although Coke Zero is my current favorite.
* offtopic :
There would also be an Italian beer of the brand 'Peroni', but I do not drink alcohol.
Now, they would like to make the same recipe at home! Wonder if it's going to taste the same. I would like to go there once again, maybe this month?
On July 20, I celebrated my birthday and my aunt (the youngest of my father's sisters) was invited too. I did not blow the candles straight away because my other aunt (my father's other sister) was singing "Happy Birthday 2 U" on the phone, ha-ha. Again, the same kind of cake as last year, even though I do not like kiwi. I got everything I wanted bar the shower gel (3 days later). I got a turtle-pendant necklace, only as a reference to one of my favourite French singers - my darling, nicknamed "the turtle" at his beginnings, exactly 10 years ago. And sudoku too, 3 different levels, I have done more than half of them. Finally, a box of Quality Street - my 3 favourites are still the purple one (hazelnut), the blue one (coconut) and the red one (strawberry-flavoured).
Seems like this song and that one appear to have a negative impact on me. I recognized the same male singer in them, didn't I?
Feeling bitter on this first day of August. I had to tie my hair and wear a black-and-white striped summer dress because of this heat. Going to fill my glass with some cheap, low-quality sugarless fruit soda before taking a shower. Great!
Olivia_Ka | 02-09-2016 20:21
Oh my, oh my, seems like I'm going wrong at the moment. Can you all turn up the volume for awhile?
First of all, my parents' car has not been repaired yet. They have problems since June. The AC function was not working well and after a supposed fixing, it went out again in mid-summer. But what happened after was worse, so they'll have to wait until next week - and may buy a new car if problems keep going afterwards.
Consequence : I wanted to have lunch on Wednesday afternoon (August 31), so my mother and I had to go on foot (about 30 minutes from home). I was walking fast and had to look after her in the most difficult part (late in coming and early in going). The problem is that, while going back, I noticed a car going from the left but thought all the lights were green, so I waved my left hand in direction of the car and my mum said she had the fear of her life (I was far from her when it happened). Don't worry, I'm fine.
This got me so ashamed that I accepted an invitation from pogo.com to join their club, and used my normal credit card number instead of using a temporary one (what my mum does, but she did not explain me clearly). I told her I did that without asking her permission and then, I got the same old song : "NEVER DISCLOSE your credit card number to anyone, they'll use it in your back" - I told her there was no way to make a temporary one and I feel sorry now that it's done. I was sure the Club Pogo was secure and chose the monthly subscription. I have also told her that the French site was closed and had to use the English one instead. Who would prevent me to play those free games?
Also, I got a strange mail at 4:39am on Wednesday, inviting me to the unenmployment system base - but there's a problem! I haven't been there for 5 years, since I got transferred to another sort of referent from another structure. But I am more and more reticent to go there on September 29, since I have no professional project at all (and working for this site doesn't count as a 'professional project'). I need some information from my current referent first (I will be there for our monthly interview on September 26), and I got a lot of bad souvenirs when receiving rejection letters. I did not appeal any of them, I wish I could have. I am so reticent and nearly going to lose my monthly "so called salary" if I don't go to the Sep. 29 interview. I would like to give up seeking a job.
And when I ask a question about music in the randomness thread, no one answers me! No one! I regret my Bag It Up forum posts! Check this thread, you'll know I was right. She says "bag it up", not "back it up", you all heard it badly! Even the "I need a Japanese!" that isn't "dam da day" at all! Caro Emerald really needed elocution lessons!
Can anybody BAN ME for all that I've said above?
Because of all that, I have lost my appetite! But first, let me get what I deserve : that 4-CD set with sixties songs. What I won in a radio contest - my fourth time ever. So let me check the mail.
First of all, my parents' car has not been repaired yet. They have problems since June. The AC function was not working well and after a supposed fixing, it went out again in mid-summer. But what happened after was worse, so they'll have to wait until next week - and may buy a new car if problems keep going afterwards.
Consequence : I wanted to have lunch on Wednesday afternoon (August 31), so my mother and I had to go on foot (about 30 minutes from home). I was walking fast and had to look after her in the most difficult part (late in coming and early in going). The problem is that, while going back, I noticed a car going from the left but thought all the lights were green, so I waved my left hand in direction of the car and my mum said she had the fear of her life (I was far from her when it happened). Don't worry, I'm fine.
This got me so ashamed that I accepted an invitation from pogo.com to join their club, and used my normal credit card number instead of using a temporary one (what my mum does, but she did not explain me clearly). I told her I did that without asking her permission and then, I got the same old song : "NEVER DISCLOSE your credit card number to anyone, they'll use it in your back" - I told her there was no way to make a temporary one and I feel sorry now that it's done. I was sure the Club Pogo was secure and chose the monthly subscription. I have also told her that the French site was closed and had to use the English one instead. Who would prevent me to play those free games?
Also, I got a strange mail at 4:39am on Wednesday, inviting me to the unenmployment system base - but there's a problem! I haven't been there for 5 years, since I got transferred to another sort of referent from another structure. But I am more and more reticent to go there on September 29, since I have no professional project at all (and working for this site doesn't count as a 'professional project'). I need some information from my current referent first (I will be there for our monthly interview on September 26), and I got a lot of bad souvenirs when receiving rejection letters. I did not appeal any of them, I wish I could have. I am so reticent and nearly going to lose my monthly "so called salary" if I don't go to the Sep. 29 interview. I would like to give up seeking a job.
And when I ask a question about music in the randomness thread, no one answers me! No one! I regret my Bag It Up forum posts! Check this thread, you'll know I was right. She says "bag it up", not "back it up", you all heard it badly! Even the "I need a Japanese!" that isn't "dam da day" at all! Caro Emerald really needed elocution lessons!
Can anybody BAN ME for all that I've said above?
Because of all that, I have lost my appetite! But first, let me get what I deserve : that 4-CD set with sixties songs. What I won in a radio contest - my fourth time ever. So let me check the mail.
CarlJ | 02-09-2016 20:29
it's been a day........6pm Saturday can't get here fast enough
Captain_Keeta | 02-09-2016 20:29
Can anybody BAN ME for all that I've said above?
Depends.
Olivia_Ka | 02-09-2016 20:34
Jeff : let's not start the brawl. I'm waiting for reactions from more competent people here.
Captain_Keeta | 02-09-2016 20:36
You only post these for reactions? lolwut
roxcyn | 04-09-2016 00:41
Naw, we don't want yoy banned Céline. I used to play the games on that website years ago because I won a year membership in a contest.
As for cars, I feel your pain. Ours needs new tires so we'll have to get them soon before winter. I'm sure they'll be a bunch of money.
PS: The song you mentioned she does say "back", but some of the times she says "ba-ba-back it up" so maybe to you it sounded like "bang". I can tell you it is back and not bang. I know some songs they really do mispronounce the words.
As for cars, I feel your pain. Ours needs new tires so we'll have to get them soon before winter. I'm sure they'll be a bunch of money.
PS: The song you mentioned she does say "back", but some of the times she says "ba-ba-back it up" so maybe to you it sounded like "bang". I can tell you it is back and not bang. I know some songs they really do mispronounce the words.
Olivia_Ka | 05-09-2016 21:01
* offtopic :
"Bag", not "bang".
And on this Monday, everything seems to turn out better.
I have purposely changed plans for my Club Pogo subscription and asked my mother for some help. Too easy.
Also, I just got the mail and found Beach Party vol. 2! I promised my mother I'll lend her the 4 CDs, I'm sure I'm going to listen to them tonight.
About the car : we may use it again this week.
"Bag", not "bang".
And on this Monday, everything seems to turn out better.
I have purposely changed plans for my Club Pogo subscription and asked my mother for some help. Too easy.
Also, I just got the mail and found Beach Party vol. 2! I promised my mother I'll lend her the 4 CDs, I'm sure I'm going to listen to them tonight.
About the car : we may use it again this week.
saina | 07-09-2016 17:44
I am feeling fine and at peace after so many days. Last two months were so stressful because of my studies, girl is post-graduate now officially.My personal life was also not too good, girl is single again. But today I felt like I can be happy and move on. I don't know why I am feeling like this today. Maybe because I spent whole day at a new place, meeting new people. Hope this peace stays with me.
Moral of the last two months: some people shucks while some rocks. Cheers!
Moral of the last two months: some people shucks while some rocks. Cheers!
roxcyn | 11-09-2016 06:29
Ooh, what are you studying? Do you know Jasvinder?
saina | 15-09-2016 13:37
Hey, Scott! I was doing a post-graduate course in Business Management. Now I have completed it.
I don't think, I know any Jasvinder. Why?
I don't think, I know any Jasvinder. Why?
roxcyn | 21-09-2016 17:11
That great! Are you wanting to own your own business or the store manager of some place? She's my friend and I thought you might know her.
saina | 04-10-2016 20:30
A post-grad was one of the qualifications for the job I am chasing after. But I do plan to start my own business someday. Can't rely on a job if you really want to become wealthy someday.
Juliet86 | 05-10-2016 03:10
What kind of business do you want to start?
CarlJ | 05-10-2016 19:15
Hey Sai!! Long time no talk. And yes, do tell...what kind of biz you gonna start up? we'll all come work for you.
PianoPLayer698 | 05-10-2016 20:34
I could be better but I guess I'm fine
saina | 05-10-2016 21:54
Hey Carl, Lisa!
Since childhood, I had this dream of opening schools but I am poor, so I am interested in the next better option, tuition centres. They are hot in almost every part of India and if I save enough money, I can get a room or two on rent for tuitions and then go ahead from there. I used to be a home-tutor and none of the parents of my students were disappointed with me. So, I think, I can handle it. (I may hire you, guys as foreign language tutors. )
Since childhood, I had this dream of opening schools but I am poor, so I am interested in the next better option, tuition centres. They are hot in almost every part of India and if I save enough money, I can get a room or two on rent for tuitions and then go ahead from there. I used to be a home-tutor and none of the parents of my students were disappointed with me. So, I think, I can handle it. (I may hire you, guys as foreign language tutors. )
roxcyn | 05-10-2016 22:28
Saina, that sounds so cool! A lotbof people there want to do good, right?
Tyler, what's going on?
Tyler, what's going on?
Captain_Keeta | 05-10-2016 22:47
We wish you the best of luck Sai!
saina | 05-10-2016 22:48
Yup. Unfortunately, the education system is not so good in my country. So every household, I tell you, every household send their children for extra-tuitions. They are ready to spend on studies in addition to the school fees because everybody believes that a student can't excel unless s/he takes tuition. Tutoring is the easiest money one can earn here, if you are a graduate.
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