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Proving "God" Doesn't Exist!

 
15-11-2005 17:27GothicAtheist is offline GothicAtheist  

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Here's my arguement that "god cannot exist:

Nothing is perfect
Nothing perfect exists
Therefore "god" cannot exist




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27-12-2008 22:46Joeyy is offline Joeyy 


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i guess we just gotta take each other at our own word, unless we want to dispute it based on the little we know about each other, which would be pretty silly.
I think you'll find that no one did respond using drugs as an argument since your last post, unless you completely misinterpreted vandy's.
need their god so they feel better about the world...
Alcohol and drugs aren't used for any of that...

Though if you really think that people don't use drugs and alcohol to feel better about events and themselves, you calling me and Daniel ignorant is one of the most hypocritical opinions I've ever read.

27-12-2008 22:48Joeyy is offline Joeyy 


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*With speech marks.

27-12-2008 22:53Bucephalus is offline Bucephalus 


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Meg said about me using drugs as a crutch, which is false. That's why I addressed the drugs and alcohol thing.

And you and Daniel are ignorant. Maybe it was the other thread but I know Daniel was trying to imply I use drugs as a crutch and I am weak for that or something.. Lol, how extremely stupid. And you were saying something to the effect that I am an addict of some sort... WTF? I almost thought you were joking till I remembered who was posting it.
27-12-2008 23:25missulikecrazy is offline missulikecrazy 


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Aren't there a lot of people who use drugs and alcohol to try to "fix" their problems? There are so many people who think that drugs and alcohol can get rid of their problems, and in the end will come something good..
27-12-2008 23:30Bucephalus is offline Bucephalus 


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probably
27-12-2008 23:51vandy is offline vandy 


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You go on and do what you want, curt. i personally think you're way too smart to waste your life having "fun" with drugs. you never know what's in that $h[t, what it could be cut with, and it can kill you. pot included.

at least what you claim is my "crutch" isn't damaging.
28-12-2008 00:05Bucephalus is offline Bucephalus 


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I agree I am smart. I wish you were smart enough to understand marijuana more. Even if it were laced, first of all I'd probably be able to tell, and second of all it wouldn't be enough to kill me. Maybe 1 in a million chance.

Religion as a broad term is extremely dangerous, as can be your God. Your God hinders a lot of people from striving to be strong individuals and doing things on their own. When I say crutch, I am referring to people using that given thing (In this case, God) as something to lean on. For example, religious folk can lean on their God whenever hardships occur because "God will help them through tough times!"... When in reality, it's just a false hope.

You can argue your God doesn't damage you personally, but I know my drugs don't damage me either.
28-12-2008 14:24LilAngelKiss is offline LilAngelKiss 

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I agree I am smart. I wish you were smart enough to understand marijuana more. Even if it were laced, first of all I'd probably be able to tell, and second of all it wouldn't be enough to kill me. Maybe 1 in a million chance.

...

You can argue your God doesn't damage you personally, but I know my drugs don't damage me either.



...??? Uhm... Serious? :/
28-12-2008 17:06zjenn4 is offline zjenn4 


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oh fine say as you wish. it's all like saying that people cut themselves just because it's fun, or people don't eat, or throw up what they eat just because it sounds like a good idea (which all of those obviously aren't good ideas or fun). if drugs, alcohol and any other smokeable substances were to vanish of the face of the planet, sure there'd be some in withdrawal, but inevitably, most people would be better off.

and religion only hinders one's growth when lust and the desires of the world are able to tempt the person enough to distract them from keeping their focus on God above.

the weakness argument is silly. i could just as easily say that nonbelievers are weak because they are too afraid to let go of what they want and trust to put their faith in God, trusting that He knows what is best for them. i could also say they are selfish because they refuse to give up what they want, and what works or is comfortable for them, because that would mean putting God first and not themselves. but if I went around saying that, would that help interest people in what I believe? no, it would tick people off and turn them away. so when trying to convince people to see your point of view, insulting them is probably the least effective.

and personally, i would rather be seen or considered as "weak" because i choose to believe and put my faith in God, than to be "strong" and put my faith in nothing but myself. strong and weak are relative terms in this case and only truly matter to those who choose to let them matter.
28-12-2008 17:12PunkRckr8 is offline PunkRckr8 


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and religion only hinders one's growth when lust and the desires of the world are able to tempt the person enough to distract them from keeping their focus on God above.

religion often results in closed mindedness and lack of respect for other opinions that has nothing to do with worldly desires. Take homosexuality, gender roles, sexuality as a whole, and racial disputes that are all bound in religion (both text and preached) for example.
28-12-2008 19:55Bucephalus is offline Bucephalus 


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Well Jenn, that's your choice and good luck with being considered weak and not believing in yourself
21-02-2009 17:49DamPixieHippy is offline DamPixieHippy 


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You might THINK a God does exist, but your reasoning is usless... Sorry man.
22-02-2009 12:55ars7amad is offline ars7amad 

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guys if god does not exist
then who build the earh who made the moon how do we move around the sun
how the plant come out how do we have babies how there is gravity how ... etc
but the most important if god does not exist Y R we exist
god like gravity its a Theory but in every way its true
i`m Muslim
& there is a true story in Islam says that there was a Sheikh in a village
full of people who believe in nature .. so some one in the village came up with an idea that they do a debate betwen the head of the village and the Sheikh and they all agreed .. so when the time came the sheikh was late and they all asked him Y ? he said i saw the tree flying > so every body said that he was lying ... but how you r saying that ha is lying if you r saying the same thing .. i mean really if you believe that the nature did every thing than why you dont believe me when i say that the tree was crying the other day > and if god does not exist just tell me 10 reasons ??
22-02-2009 19:59DamPixieHippy is offline DamPixieHippy 


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I am very much on ars7amad's side :-)
28-02-2009 08:56WH1 is offline WH1 

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you never did listen to me
well,listen up, "I AM"
(WOOHOO Jesus!)
28-02-2009 10:35vandy is offline vandy 


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I'll prove your mom doesn't exist.
28-02-2009 22:30DamPixieHippy is offline DamPixieHippy 


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Gods real, theres more than one!
01-03-2009 01:14Kaberg is offline Kaberg 


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Religion is a very Delicate and Complicated subject wether or not you want it to be.
Im not a Believer myself, i am more of a "life" fan.
i Think that Life it self in all it's forms is so magnificent and complex that there is reason for me to believe in anything but us living and Breathing here on "Mother Earth". (not sure if that makes me a Satanist)
I Believe that for mankind to Evolve and Grow we need to Create a greeter understanding of ourselves. this is Done by communicating, exploring other Humans and turning the you into the self. religion is IMO preventing this from happening. in religion everything is explained and therefore there is no longer a reason to Communicate and Search for your own answers. Religion is Holding you at bay, hindering from ever going out onto Deeper and explore the depths of yourselves.
if there is a God would he not wish for us to grow into our mortal bodies?
if there is a God would he not wish for us to find our own answers
Would he have us slaves to his ways ? never to let us even try to Find our own answers. Never to explore the life that he supposedly has given us, to try to find new ways of understanding life. getting our own understanding of life and to Live life in all its beauty!!!

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01-03-2009 01:41sumguy15 is offline sumguy15 


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argue! argue argue argue!
03-03-2009 12:38ars7amad is offline ars7amad 

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hey kaberg excuse me but u r talking shit
u r a slave in the eye of god
dont you think that u r free
if u were free then why cant we fly in the sky
why we cant come near the sun and why and why ... etc
and maybe you dont believe what i just said
but you must believe that the life is not BEAUTYFUL
i mean my brother have canser and he is only 16 year old !!
is that what you call it beauty
and man u r slave dont think that u r more then that and i mean it
and do u know how stupid u sound when u say that religion is all explained ...
i mean its just like you are saying that i wont take this test because its easy and its already been solved because its holding me to not study
what i mean go explore who the f*** is holding you
i really why i am writing here its just like talking to a wall
i say 1+1=2
they say no you r wrong 1+1=2
i mean what r u changing
03-03-2009 14:35JDolla is offline JDolla 


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I bet that made sense to you when you typed it, but damn that was confusing to read
03-03-2009 14:38PunkRckr8 is offline PunkRckr8 


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I especially liked the part about god being gravity and keeping us from flying, including in space
14-05-2009 22:48Metalupurass69 is offline Metalupurass69 

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actually ars7amad u r the slave of all slaves because you listen to these set of guidelines and rules to live by.......but heres the slave part you have no naysay in any of it. forced and brain-poked to do it
14-05-2009 22:50Metalupurass69 is offline Metalupurass69 

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and its all slavery hidden behind the mask of religion
15-05-2009 01:40musiclover342 is offline musiclover342 


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this thread is always making a comeback in a big way, isn't it


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