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@ 29-05-2003 02:13 vandy | 
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| When this post was first created, a girl named Baileysmummy was making tons of threads entitled "what do you think of Irish people?" or "what do you think of Italians" etc...so I (vandy) decided to create something a bit contraversial...a "what do you think of Catholics?" discussion topic. Well, it evolved into this, a huge discussion of Catholicism, so Ally changed the title to fit it when she was the lone mod in this category. I decided to add in this explanation, so that no one thought that I thought that Catholicism was a joke or a fad.
why not? it seems to be the fad lately. |
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 0  @ 08-05-2006 16:24 AlmightyShmun | 1,189 posts
| I would have to disagree simply on the basis that I loathe alcohol and the people who drink it.
And seriously, why would God place so much emphasis on our biological functions? Why is sex such a big deal, but something like, oh...excreting your waste is never brought up? Is God just bitter over the lack of a goddess and his eternal constipation or something? Why would God care about the petty day-to-day details of human life? Specifically, why place emphasis on any one individual. There are SIX BILLION people alive today, plus all the people who have come before us and will come after. I don't think God gives a damn what you do, so long as it doesn't actively harm other people. | | 0 @ 08-05-2006 18:47 dag_102 | 254 posts
| Well that sounds sincere , and it's ok , positive thinking and well it looks like you have your sexuallity under control , but think of those who doesn't , that's where it goes bad.
I've thought this so you understand in a less restrictive way (for catholics and non-catholics) . Think of the church as your parents (it is indeed our mother Church but ok) , they only want what's best for you , for your own good , and to raise you in such way that you'll be able to fight on your own in the world. That's exactly what the church does , it gives us guidelines to our daily living , it only want what's best for our soul and salvation , so it gives rules , yes , maybe many brought up by other humans ; but humans inspired by the Holy Spirit or God (prophets) or Jesus (the apostles) so, we know those came from somewhere that fits our system . Ultimately , as any parent that lets kids fly away , the church isn't obssesed with you , is not going to punish you personally and such things, it just gave you the tools to make your own choices and try to follow the right path , are we clear? 
Besides you're saying God is concerned,obssesed etc. , and it's not god , its "god's ppl" , people in earth trying to make their way to god's prescence , call it saints or martyrs or the pope , they gave rules , set examples or simple advice to get to our god, it is not god trying to met himself. | | 0 @ 09-05-2006 00:07 AlmightyShmun | 1,189 posts
| If you want a marked instance of the Church acting in the supposed interest of the people, look at 15th century France. When the potato was discovered in the Peruvian Andes and brought back to Europe, the Clergy came out and said that to eat one was a sin. Had France switched from primarily cereal crops to primarily potato, like the rest of Europe at the time, then thousands of peasants wouldn't have had to starve. | | 0 @ 09-05-2006 00:50 vandy |
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| I think that sex changes a relationship...I think sex is supposed to make it permanent, and when that gets torn away it makes things more hurtful...I think God wants us to save sex for marriage as a function to protect us from being hurt.
And you disagree with that because you have a different idea of what God is than I do. (not even sure if you believe he exists, so maybe you have a different idea of what God would be than I do.) I believe in a God who is so powerful, that he is able to truly care about every single person in his creation. We can't put the same limits on God that we have for ourselves. One person may not be able to individually care about each person, but God can.
This doesn't mean that premarital sex is the worst sin one could commit...I think people put way too much emphasis on the church's teachings about sex. There's good stuff in there, too. | | 0 @ 09-05-2006 00:57 Dagor | 
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| I don't want to offend you at all, but maybe you think of sex more than it actually is .. it is fun and involves a lot of intimacy, but so is cuddling or having a nice dinner ... having a good conversation with someone can be more intense and intimate than sex. To be honest, I don't think that sex is so important in a relationship ... there are so many more aspects ... still, I have learnt to respect your view on premarital sex, don't get me wrong here. | | 0 @ 09-05-2006 01:35 vandy |
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| I am not offended at all  . And you are right in one respect, I dont' know what sex is like, being a virgin and all! However...there have been studies that say that sex is more emotional for women. To be fair, I don't know how those studies were conducted or anything like that. I can also say that, as the way to procreation, sex just for that aspect is pretty important.
But you are entitled to your opinion just as I am mine; I'm not always out to make everyone agree with me, much of the time I just want to show that my ideals and values are, indeed, respectable. So thank you for giving me that respect . | | 0 @ 09-05-2006 01:45 AlmightyShmun | 1,189 posts
| A 22 year old virgin?
I'd hit that. | | 0 @ 09-05-2006 02:54 vandy |
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| mmm...have you seen my picture? I'm really not that hot  . I'd look before ya leap. | | 0 @ 09-05-2006 03:57 dag_102 | 254 posts
| The word virgin sounds hot on a chick hehe , of course that's offtopic.
Ehrm , that 15th century guy... that happend so many time ago , let it go , its not like if it's happening right now , besides the pope declared that , and shocking as this might be , he's a human endorsed to mistakes . The church itself has apologized for things over the past and well I think we're cool with that.
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Again ... virgin , hot , sorry if that's depraved , but if a girl came to me saying that I'd drop dead and then have a major crush on her 
| | 0 @ 09-05-2006 04:24 AlmightyShmun | 1,189 posts
| Ehrm , that 15th century guy... that happend so many time ago , let it go , its not like if it's happening right now
Yeah? Then don't talk about Jesus to me.
What? It was a long time ago! Let it go! | | 0 @ 09-05-2006 04:32 KateKateKate | 
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| But there's a difference...the church let go of teh past of what it has done. But it hasn't let go of the beliefs that make it.
And it isn't that we kick you out if you sin. Everyone does. It's not "BELIEVE OR GET THE HELL OUT". The church isn't gonna change who it is to attract more people. It's like Buddhists changing everything they believe cause they want more followers. Either people follow or they don't. If you wanna be part of the church, then you are and you do what it says. If you want whatever's convenient for you, then you aren't part. It isn't forced on you, you can still come to Mass if you so please and no one is really gonna look down on you for it. It isn't trying to control. If it was trying to control, it would change things to attract more people and then the "brainwashing" would begin but that isn't the case. If anything the harsher rules are keeping more people away, not attracting them or controlling them. Controlling would include enticing more people, wouldn't it? I don't think anyone who really believes in God fears it anyway, cause they know where they're going as long as they try. | | 0 @ 09-05-2006 13:31 dag_102 | 254 posts
| yeah well I got carried away but the point remains , it happened cuz of bad --human-- choices so you can't blame catholicism.
Nobody is flawless but that's why faith helps us , to be better in every aspect.
Can we drop the flaming and just discuss how cute catholic girl's uniforms are? Oh God , now I do sound perv... ok well let's say , good Catholic experiences. | | 0 @ 09-05-2006 16:24 AlmightyShmun | 1,189 posts
| Catholic school girl uniforms are a popular fetish because they're symbolic of the Church's insistence on sexual repression in its members, especially teenagers. The idea is the plundering of that forced innocence, and an awakening of a perfectly natural adolescent libido. | | 0 @ 09-05-2006 16:28 green_day_rox | 170 posts
| Well i have a massive family and me, my dad and my sister and my niece are the only ones in my family which are protestant. Living in the country which i am from there is a lot of trouble between catholics and protestant and there is a lot of in your face i am this religion but living with them all my life i have realised the only difference is what they believe in. There is no reason for any one to argue over them. A lot of people in my school hate them and it really hurts me being the family that i come from and if people actually live with catholics and talk to catholics they will realise we are all equal. There are catholic groups such as the IRA here and protestant groups such as the UVF and i have learnt to live with it and accept it being from the country that i live in and the family which i am from. There are protestant and catholic murals everywhere in my city. The whole point is it doesn't really matter about the persons religion but it is about who they are inside. Its like people still hate germans even though all that hitler and nazi stuff happened a long time ago and people will actually find that over in germany a lot of people are embarrased to come from those roots. I think things should be left in the past and people should just get along with one another!!! | | 0 @ 11-05-2006 03:56 AlmightyShmun | 1,189 posts
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Test. I think my internet's having some weird problems. Just...just ignore this.
| | 0 @ 10-07-2006 00:01 RandomGuy | 7 posts
| I think religion is kinda fucked up now, if you think about it, there is this one entity that created the whole universe and concentrated on us, then he makes a kid in some chick and he is supposed to save us from dammnation by healing lepars and being nailed to a cross
to me it just sounds to unbelieveable, dont get me wrong I'm not some completely antireligion guy i agree with some stuff that religion teaches (being a good person) but come on how can that be true especially with all the new scientific stuff that is slowly destroying most things that relegion says is true, i'm sorry if your pissed at me but thats the way i see it  | | 0 @ 16-07-2006 16:06 vandy |
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| what science is disproving religion?
i'm a very devoted catholic, and have no problems whatsoever with the theory of evolution...it doesn't conflict with my faith! | | 0 @ 21-07-2006 18:06 LordGold | 168 posts
| catholicism was such a turn off to me that now i'm a very happy jew.
i don't see how catholics can follow the dogma so hardcore when there are tons of holes in it. | | 0 @ 22-07-2006 00:15 AlmightyShmun | 1,189 posts
| That applies to every religion, without exception. No religion is without at least one huge, major gap in rational thought. | | 0 @ 22-07-2006 00:15 AlmightyShmun | 1,189 posts
| Well, except Buddhism. | | 0 @ 15-08-2006 10:24 toota | 19 posts
| i'm jewish.
it does not mined 4 me what religion you belong too, as long as you respect me and others!! | | 0 @ 25-10-2006 05:18 dag_102 | 254 posts
| Then you're a cool Jewish 
Hope there is more like you out there | | 0 @ 25-10-2006 23:47 tinkerbellrocks | 1,131 posts
| k, i'm a luthern so our religon was based on martian luther saying "i don't think what the roman catholics are doing is right" so he started his own thing, so pretty much we aren't surposed to like cathollicism. it's different from us with the whole no meat on fridays durning lent thing, which is kinda weird, but other than that it's the same. the roman cathlics back in the day used to sell "indulgenced" which were prays to get there family out of pergatory(oh, we don't beleive in that either) and that crazy stuff, but they don't do that any more. | | 0 @ 24-11-2006 03:36 FiVEWiSHES | 
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| EVERY SINGLE CATHOLIC, pope included, does something against church teaching, probably on a daily basis
Try almost everyone in every religion, not just Catholicism. | | 0 @ 24-11-2006 07:09 vandy |
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| I'm not going to argue with that statement. We are all imperfect beings. The beauty of my beliefs is that I can be redeemed from that. |
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