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@ 06-05-2005 02:36 shelby827
1,526 posts	Ok, i hope i don't get a bunch of bad replies, but i was just wondering what all you all from other countries think about the United States.

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0 @ 08-12-2006 18:59 Dagor
33,241 posts	No one seems to realize that things are COMPLETELY different here .. from Europe and such. Haven't I mentioned that we in Europe have a different necessity to learn foreign languages. But there you have it again .. you are limiting your range again to the US. Of course I don't expect a farmer that doesn't leave his farm to speak dutch. But I do expect that a random tourist would at least be able to say 'Danke' or 'Grazie' and perhaps even one or 2 sentences more. The random tourist just spills his dialect at you without even considering that you might not understand him (depending on the situation, I even pretend not to understand english if some cocky tourist is approaching me. In case he is polite enough, I do help him of course) And I do expect that people who are doing business on an international level (educated people, partly with university degrees) that they speak a few sentences of foreign languages. Like I said, headquarters of my company is in germany, with a subsidiary in kansas. Out of the 10-15 people that I have met here in germany not one of them is even able to read a german menue. Pretty embarrassing if you ask me. And it's not even so much about the language, it's about the "I am from the US so I don't need to speak your language, or adapt a bit to your culture or consider that there are other ways than mine" mentality that drives me up the walls.
0 @ 08-12-2006 20:31 _AdreNaliN_
2,668 posts	Wow, u just summed up what I was trying to say.. but because of my communication problem, i can't seem to get my point through in my last couple of posts. Anyway.. And it's not even so much about the language, it's about the "I am from the US so I don't need to speak your language, or adapt a bit to your culture or consider that there are other ways than mine" mentality that drives me up the walls. yeah.. kinda true.
0 @ 09-12-2006 03:07 Bucephalus
1,977 posts	lol, I don't care if I am a sterotype, a gnerealization, or a "typical" American in your eyes Dannyboy. Woohoo. Lol, all these people hate America and they've never even been here. That's amusing.
0 @ 09-12-2006 03:40 Oinkpiggy
337 posts	Its alright. But i can name more bad things about it than good.
0 @ 09-12-2006 12:27 Dagor
33,241 posts	Lol, all these people hate America and they've never even been here. That's amusing. That's about the weakest argument in this whole discussion. As if this would still be the 19th century and no modern information technologies exist. Geez. You don't need to be in New Orleans to see how people are treated and left on their own without help for days after. There are media to report that. You don't need to be in the US to know that they didn't want to sign the Kyoto Protocol (I doubt that every american knows this, so why should I go to the US to find that out) There is loads of media coverage about the US here. There is the internet, there are the personal contacts with people from the US. I agree that it must be hard for people who are so proud of their country to have to deal with a bit of mild criticism and to find out that they are not so loved in the world as they would like to think of themselves. The biggest mistake in the Iraq war was actually that the US expected that they would have been welcomed and loved as heroes and liberators. Get realistic. Every country has its flaws, so does the US. Get over it.
0 @ 09-12-2006 16:56 LinkinLawg
19,068 posts	You don't need to be in the US to know that they didn't want to sign the Kyoto Protocol (I doubt that every american knows this, so why should I go to the US to find that out I know what that is, we talked about it in Chemistry class. It was an international agreement to reduce pollution. There is loads of media coverage about the US here. There is the internet, there are the personal contacts with people from the US. The media always stretches the truth. Half of the things they say aren't even right. The media mostly covers only bad things. And international newses probably do a worse job at that and try to make America look like a bad place. I don't base my opinions on other countries from what I hear in the media. I would only give a true opinion about a country if I have actually visited that place.
0 @ 09-12-2006 19:02 Dagor
33,241 posts	And international newses probably do a worse job at that and try to make America look like a bad place Why should they? It's common knowledge that american media are one of the most biased in the western world. So how would you know that your image of the your country is an objective one? I actually base my information on different sources.
0 @ 10-12-2006 17:56 BynnaD
2,839 posts	I base my opinions from what I hear and see, I've watched Fox News for about half hour before and if I'm honest, I thought it was great. The stuff they're talking about and just what they're reporting is just hilarious. As Dan's said, you dont need to go to America to see how stupid most of you lot are. I see it Randomness, I see it in threads like these, I see it out and about in Reading when I hear Americans. I've heard American's talking crap about Canada, but really Canada is pretty much America liked, it's just a shame they're convinced their French to be honest. One thing I want to step on is, humour. There's American humour and British humour. Now American comedy, is well pretty crap if I'm honest. Friends is good, I'll give you guys that, because it's not American comedy. American comedy, Scrubs, Chris Rock (boring piece of twat), Everybody Loves Raymond and basically sub-par programs like that. British comedy covers everything, The O ffice,Never Mind The Buzzcocks, Shooting Stars, Extras, Little Britain, Tittybangbang, Dead Ringers and British stand-up is the best stand-up. Al Murray, Lee Evans, Jim Davidson, Patrick Kelty, Reading's own Ricky Gervais. American's find, what I'd say the stupid things funny, the unrealistic stuff and finding it completely great. British find the actual funny stuff, funny. The realistic funny and the realistic things happening and something unrealistic being said about it is found funny, because it's down to earth and half sensible and thats what makes it funny. Americans would never find Little Britain, Lock Stock, Snatch and Mick Bassett England Manager hilarious, because it's too realistic.
0 @ 10-12-2006 19:23 megdoll187
3,945 posts	i don't even watch half of what you think is comedy danny it doesn't really appeal to me and i like where i live. . . do i like america? eh. . . i guess i hate the government at times but not going to complain too much bc i can't do a lot about it
0 @ 10-12-2006 19:24 LinkinLawg
19,068 posts	if you are a registered voter and you voted, then you have the right to bitch about the government. If you don't vote, then you lose your bitching rights.
0 @ 10-12-2006 19:57 megdoll187
3,945 posts	lol i didn't vote in the last election
0 @ 10-12-2006 20:00 Bucephalus
1,977 posts	Yeah, Americans find British humor to be awful for the most part. I actually think of the term British Humor as an insult. Every country has its flaws, so does the US. Get over it. "get over it"? Get over what? Nobody says it doesn't have flaws.
0 @ 10-12-2006 20:22 NightHobbit
23,464 posts	i like american humour and british humour... i feel slightly insulted.
0 @ 10-12-2006 21:51 Dagor
33,241 posts	Nobody says it doesn't have flaws. You could have fooled me regarding the wining hysteria in this thread because of some mild criticism
0 @ 10-12-2006 23:10 xEmoxGirlx
127 posts	America has its pros and cons just like every country... Personally Im moving out of the mainland US and back to Hawaii (Molokai Or Kuai'ai) where no one really cares whats going on on the mainland. but thats after college. maybe. But just as I was saying, if everything in every country were perfect and flawless it'd be pretty boring now wouldn't it?
0 @ 10-12-2006 23:19 Barakine
21,826 posts	I'll just mention one thing I don't like. There are no... old, historical, architecturally genius.. buildings. No, I do not like skyscrapers. Conrete, concrete. Glass, more glass. Blah. Well obviously it's because it's not an old country. It simply doesn't seem to have the nice cultural roots, as in Europe. There might be one or two pretty buildings somewhere in USA but I'm unaware.
0 @ 11-12-2006 00:13 Bucephalus
1,977 posts	You could have fooled me regarding the wining hysteria in this thread because of some mild criticism You must be easily fooled then. Because I don't think anyone is claiming it's perfect. You are just pretending they are.
0 @ 11-12-2006 02:22 megdoll187
3,945 posts	lina the buildings in boston are beautiful they have some old historic houses from the colonial times still there you might like it
0 @ 11-12-2006 14:42 Pandora
22,852 posts	There is loads of media coverage about the US here. woe to the person that believes everything they seen and hear on television. .. and I doubt the american members of the forum would be so defensive... if it were just a 'mild criticism'. When you have to deal with mulitiple threads constantly popping up insulting your every way of life.... by people, that many infact have never sat foot in the US to see first hand how things are... when you here more stereotypes than real truth... look at yourself and how 'arrogant' and 'defensive' you seem. The government isn't the greatest.... wow yea.. we know that. If you come walk the streets here and see whats going on, most are in agreement there. Most people can hardly make it on what they have, much less afford a revolution. The 'american dream' was made up by a bunch of foreigners that dreamed of coming here to find a 'better life'. Most americans don't believe in any sort of an 'american dream'. .. c'mon people give it a rest. rockon tabitha
0 @ 11-12-2006 16:06 Dagor
33,241 posts	woe to the person that believes everything they seen and hear on television If I see people packed in some superdome in the heat 4 days after a hurricane with virtually nothing to eat or drink, I have no reason to believe why that shouldn't be true. If I see how superstores get plundered and how life derails, I can imagine that there is not enough security to guarantee the safety of those left behind. What is there to interprete in a false way there? If I see a president that only shakes his shoulders at some embarrassing questions ... where is the lie there? Besides, media is not just television .. it is facts in the internet about homicide, about the distance in income between poor and rich ... it is articles about for instance the kyoto protocol The US is pretty transparent, in contrast to Russia for instance
0 @ 11-12-2006 16:09 Pandora
22,852 posts	you avoid the fact that ... the media only covers what which they deem 'interesting' ... nothing good seems interesting anymore. and a lump of people can't be judged by the government over them.. no one seems to realize that. rockon tabitha
0 @ 11-12-2006 18:28 BynnaD
2,839 posts	media is not just television Take newspapers for example, newspaper A supports Tony Blair, newspaper B doesnt. They both provide different views on Tony Blair's affairs. AS I've said if your own media betrays your country with a bad image. Means either they think America is crap as well, or they're too stupid to realise it.
0 @ 11-12-2006 18:33 megdoll187
3,945 posts	people write what they think will get them the most money it's not so much about opion anymore as it is money would you rather hear about all the good thing people here can do? or would you pay to read about a corrupt government. like you said. . . there's always two sides
0 @ 11-12-2006 18:34 megdoll187
3,945 posts	opinion*
0 @ 11-12-2006 18:38 BynnaD
2,839 posts	No.. certain papers actually support Blair and some do not. All were againest the Iraq war I believe and some papers sympathised with Frank Bruno, others didnt.

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