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The Abortion Thread
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@ 06-04-2005 16:37 Lind_ | 12 posts
|  Hey you guys!!!
We're doing this projekt in school about an ethical dilemma  , and Iv'e chosen abortion. Could be really usefull to hear your oppinion  and why you think like you do. So if you feel for it pls write what you think about it.  xox Linda |
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 0  @ 28-04-2005 04:57 Just_Jamie | 12,874 posts
| Vandy - every argument about abortion has already been made; no one ever comes up with anything new. And, sadly, no one will ever be able to convince anyone else. | | 0 @ 28-04-2005 04:59 andrew4762 | 9,287 posts
| jamie is 100% CORRECT
*hands jamie fruit basket*
its all been said but people continue to talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk because they think they are right | | 0 @ 19-06-2005 20:54 behindblueyes | 105 posts
| Here's my opinion:
Personally, I believe abortion is wrong, I couldn't go through with it.
But, I also think that every woman should have their own right to choose whether they think it is right or not. I mean, if someone thinks they can live with doing it, it's up to them really.
Does anyone get what I'm trying to say? | | 0 @ 19-06-2005 20:56 danastasia | 19,263 posts
| Yes, and it's the way it should be. Whether you want your baby or not is not the business of the government or church (although after a certain number of weeks when the cells become a baby it's a little trickier.)
If you wanted to follow the church, you'd follow it and not have an abortion. | | 0 @ 19-06-2005 20:59 behindblueyes | 105 posts
| Sorry, I just read what someone else wrote, and, to add to what i wrote before, I do agree, people should stop arguing about it, everyone has their own beliefs and nobody is going to ever convince some people otherwise. | | 0 @ 19-06-2005 22:21 mommavan | 15 posts
| I did a debate on this in class before graduation and it is very intresting to hear other peoples opinions and i personally think that abortion should not be a form of birth control but as self defense such as being raped or a womens body that cannont have a baby because of the difficulties that she might have. So i think it should be leagal for self defense. I was raised to believe that this was evil and bad yet i know so many people in the church that have had abortions.. so if gals do it for birth control it is wrong in many many ways and they will have to pay the price for taking an innocent life. | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 03:25 FireWaterBurn | 28,885 posts
| I think abortion should only be doen when a girl is raped. On the other hand, if i got a girl pregnant and i used protection, I would demand an abortion. | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 03:36 CandyGirl020 | 1,499 posts
| (i didnt read all the posts before me but this is my opinion on abortion)
Personally i think abortion should be illegal because first of all, to murder someone is illegal. when you have an abortion you are actually killing the baby and thats kinda considered manslaghter/murder. So, if murder is truly illegal then so should abortions. Secondly, the baby never asked to be created (i didnt know how else to word it) it was your own actions. Unless you were raped. But still, if you dont want to keep the baby then at least let it be born and take him/her to a foster home so the child may keep its life and try to make something of they're life. You shouldn't take away a life that you started . (Again excusing this from people who have been raped). this was just my opinion. | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 03:40 DolphinStarr | 2,356 posts
| you can have a heart beat and be brain dead. Just b/c a fetus has a heartbeat doesn't mean its viable or a real human. Its brain isn't fully formed yet, neither are its lungs.
Its my body, and if there's some parastie sucking up my energy, and using my blood it should be my choice what to do with it. I support a woman's right to chose. And yes, a fetus does fit the definition of a parasite.
If you don't want to have an abortion fine, do your own thing, but don't tell me what to do with my body. Once the umbilical cord is cut then its a kid. Not until then. Though in the interest of lessening pain (all around) i'm not a fan of third trimester abortions unless there's extenuating cirumstances. | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 03:44 DolphinStarr | 2,356 posts
| a fetus is not a human. it has the potential to become a person. It's illegal to kill a person, but we kill other animals on a daily basis, why shouldn't fetus' be any different?
The only good reason for outlawing killing other people is the preservation of the social order, but the fetus can't participate in that yet so its not yet accorded the same rights. | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 03:52 beetroot | 11,902 posts
| I think that abortion depends on the situation for the mother.
My friend was raped and couldnt bare to bring up the child so she aborted it.... personally I dont think that I could ever abort a child but I've never been put in that situation so my opinions are that of a bystander... | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 05:13 boardin_devil | 147 posts
| All I hafta say is: Abortion is your choice and everyone else should stay out of it. I can't say if I would or wouldn't get one. I'd hafta be in that situation. | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 05:16 LiCk_AbLe | 2,981 posts
| my opinion is that it depends on the situation... | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 09:32 Just_Jamie | 12,874 posts
| DolphinStarr 06-22-2005 05:40
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you can have a heart beat and be brain dead. Just b/c a fetus has a heartbeat doesn't mean its viable or a real human. Its brain isn't fully formed yet, neither are its lungs.
Its my body, and if there's some parastie sucking up my energy, and using my blood it should be my choice what to do with it. I support a woman's right to chose. And yes, a fetus does fit the definition of a parasite.
If you don't want to have an abortion fine, do your own thing, but don't tell me what to do with my body. Once the umbilical cord is cut then its a kid. Not until then. Though in the interest of lessening pain (all around) i'm not a fan of third trimester abortions unless there's extenuating cirumstances.
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a fetus is not a human. it has the potential to become a person. It's illegal to kill a person, but we kill other animals on a daily basis, why shouldn't fetus' be any different?
The only good reason for outlawing killing other people is the preservation of the social order, but the fetus can't participate in that yet so its not yet accorded the same rights.
I am literally in tears reading your posts.
How can you tell me that my daughter is NOT HUMAN?????? Simply because she hasn't been born yet? That's BS, and you'll know it as soon as you're faced with the reality of becoming a parent.
I recently had someone tell me that I am not yet a mother, and my husband is not yet a father - it was the single most offensive thing anyone could possibly say to me. If I were to lose my child today, my heart wouldn't simply break or shatter - it would cease to exist, and I don't know how I could continue living, having lost someone I love as much as I love the little brat who thinks my bladder is a great soccer ball. I honestly don't think I could, or that I would. I used to think that suicide is the worst kind of shame, and the most selfish act a person can commit - but the fact is, if I lost my daughter (whom I've never met), I would have NOTHING left in my life worth living for - because nothing else matters. Not me, not my husband, not my friends - nothing but that little angel that I can't wait to meet.
Abortion is murder - it's as simple as that. Period, the end.
Yes, you do have the right to decide what happens to your body - in other words, keep your goddamn pants on if you don't want a kid. You have the choice to NOT HAVE SEX. Once you've made that choice, it's your responsibility to live up to the consequences of that choice.
If you're not ready to be a parent, then a) don't have sex, or b) put that helpless, defenseless child up for adoption. | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 09:49 FoNT | 1,940 posts
| i agree with the whole personal choice thing.
but can someone explain to me what the difference between rape and a faulty condom in a one night stand is? in terms of abortion i mean, obviously.
both ways you are having an unwanted pregnancy and both ways the father of the child is not someone you want to have a child with.
to me, a person is not a person until it can breathe for itself, eat for itself and s**t for itself. y'all might have different views.
by the way, is there anyone who is against abortion but is pro stem cell research? ive always wanted to know that.... | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 09:54 Just_Jamie | 12,874 posts
| In both cases, Font, there is an alternative to abortion.
It's commonly called the 'morning-after" pill.
It takes between 2 and 4 days for a fertilized egg to implant in the uterus wall. Once it has implanted, the fertilized egg begins to rapidly develop, and split into different cells.
The morning-after pill prevents implantation, thus, ending the pregnancy before it begins.
And, BTW - it's usually free. | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 09:54 andrew4762 | 9,287 posts
| Jamie i agree with you
Just because a baby isnt born yet doesnt mean it isnt human
| | 0 @ 22-06-2005 09:57 FoNT | 1,940 posts
| ok, but say hypothetically you have sex and weara a condom that is faulty
obviously you wont know youre pregnant, because you thought you did evertyhing right
and also, i dont understand how killing an egg that would make a baby is any worse than killing a foetus. youre still ending a life that could have been | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 10:02 Just_Jamie | 12,874 posts
| Because there's no guarantee that the fertilized egg will implant in the uterus. If it implants in the Fallopian tube, it HAS to be removed, or the mother would die.
And, there's no guarantee it would implant anywhere.
At that point, it's simply genetic material. It doesn't begin to grow into an embryo until AFTER implantation. Conception doesn't occur until the egg has been implanted, so the morning-after pill is still a contraceptive - it prevents conception, rather than removing a viable embryo, the way abortion does.
The morning-after pill is safe to take even if you haven't fertilized an egg...so if you have an "accident", it's a risk-free method, and I've never heard of it not working, whereas, I've heard plenty of stories of failed abortions. | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 10:08 FoNT | 1,940 posts
| but, you missed the question. after you answer this, im gonna stop this debate cos the more i ask the more i make myself look like an idiot....i might as well be talking to stephen hawking for gods sake u know so much more than me.
one night stand, with a condom, dont suspect a thing (naturally), pregnant, too late for morning after pill, only option is abortion. | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 10:16 Just_Jamie | 12,874 posts
| Info on morning-after pill
I guess I'm not sure I'm understanding the question - if the condom rips, the morning-after pill is an effective choice.
If the condom is used properly, the chances of getting pregnant from that particular encounter are slim to none.
Cases where people say "we used a condom but I got pregnant anyway", are usually due to pre-cum, which DOES contain sperm - which is why on a condom wrapper, it CLEARLY states to put the condom on before the penis is anywhere near the vagina.
So where's the problem with my answer? | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 10:19 FoNT | 1,940 posts
| im talking about like, say a condom has a tiny hole in it. it can happen, and you wouldnt know. you certainly wouldnt suspect it within 5 days, unless your period was like the next day....which coming to think of it would have to be for you to get pregnant....ok, ill just drop it | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 10:33 ignacio | 14,843 posts
| I'm just curious as to something..
is eating meat the same as killing whatever animal that came from?
Im just trying to link that with abortion | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 10:35 FoNT | 1,940 posts
| i think youd have a better time trying to link that to stem cell research dude - i dont think many people eat foetuses  | | 0 @ 22-06-2005 10:37 ignacio | 14,843 posts
| yeah maybe..oh well |
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